Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
To put it simply, yes of course suicide is selfish, and yes of course it's the wrong decision. But the point is me (and you I presume) are making that judgement with a healthy mind.
Clinical, deep depression robs somebody of that rational thought process. So we should not judge their desperate actions when we are not in their position.
Would you judge a dementia sufferer by the actions they take?

The very nature of depression is that it changes your brain patterns. Sufferers do not have the benefit of the rational, logical minds that healthy people have.
Riddle me this, mate: what did I say in my post that you quoted that went against anything you just said here?

You've said they are weak men. Called it the cowards way out. You also just posted a 'ME ME ME' etc post that is pretty obvious you are judging them harshly.

Those are comments that go against what I was saying of it's not right to judge their actions from the perspective of a healthy mind. You are clearly condemning their actions and using a viewpoint from a healthy mind to do so. I say that that isn't a fair way to judge them.