Floyd, Manny, Hop, Roy legacy

[Beanflicker]

It's disappointing that so many people are hell bent on flat out rewriting boxing history when it comes to Floyd.

Floyd Mayweather was calling both Oscar and Shane out for YEARS before he got the fight. He was calling Oscar out back when Oscar was at 154 and Floyd was at 130. You can Google that, it's documented history (complete with his own father going on record saying he was insane to challenge DLH). Same thing with Shane - he had been calling Shane out since 1999, it was Shane who decided not to over the span of 10 years. Shane was the one turning down the fight and making excuses. Cotto also turned down a Floyd fight earlier in his career because he felt he wasn't ready. Kostya, Freitas, Casamayor... there's video of Floyd calling all these guys out.

It's incredible that I read people ranking Pacqiauo above Floyd historically and knowing it's not a joke or a troll job. It's unbelievable. I constantly have to stand up for a guy I don't like.

[g3org3]

Floyd's 1st then hop, roy and manny. That manny fight is going to happen no doubt about it and then all you floyd haters are going to be sick when he beats manny.

[GAME]

It's Hopkins for me. If Floyd's still doing what he's doing for another 15 years then it will be close

Prime for prime though Roy Jones at his peak was the best

[Hulk]

It's Hopkins for me. If Floyd's still doing what he's doing for another 15 years then it will be close

Prime for prime though Roy Jones at his peak was the best

Agree completely about Roy.

No one comes close.

[Gandalf]

I don't know what this best of all time stuff really means, but they are all great fighters. There just seems to be something a little off with Mayweather and his ducking of Manny though. You cannot avoid the other best fighter around your weight class and expect it to look good. Hopkins and Roy have losses, but they took on the best no questions asked. Floyd still has that big question mark and the Manny who beat up Cotto to a pulp wasn't fought and instead actively avoided.

[Fenster]

Not sure who I rate best overall. I'll try and break it down through a 10 question scientific points system.

1. Most exciting

1. Pac
2. Roy
3. Floyd
4. Hop

2. P4P best

1. Roy
2. Floyd
3. Pac
4. Hop

3. Mentally best

1. Hop
2. Floyd
3. Pac
4. Roy

4. Greastest ever virtuoso performance

1. Roy
2. Floyd
3. Pac
4. Hop

5. Best KO ever

1. Pac
2. Roy
3. Floyd
4. Hop

6. Best at getting knocked down/out

1. Roy
2. Pac
3. Hop
4. Floyd

7. Best ring enterance

1. Roy
2. Hop
3. Floyd
4. Pac

8. Best at interviews

1. Hop
2. Roy
3. Floyd
4. Pac

9. Best at taking a shot to the goolies

1. Floyd
2. Pac
3. Roy
4. Hop

10. Best chance of making it past 3 rounds against a prime Naz

1. lol
2. as if
3. don't be silly
4. now you're taking the piss

That leaves us with

1. Roy (5 and 1/2 PTS)
2. Hop (3 and 1/2 PTS)
3. Pac (3 PTS)
4. Floyd (2 and 1/2 PTS)

I wouldn't have particularly chosen this order but the numbers have spoken. Fact.

[Memphis]

When you put it like that

[mikeeod]

It's disappointing that so many people are hell bent on flat out rewriting boxing history when it comes to Floyd.

Floyd Mayweather was calling both Oscar and Shane out for YEARS before he got the fight. He was calling Oscar out back when Oscar was at 154 and Floyd was at 130. You can Google that, it's documented history (complete with his own father going on record saying he was insane to challenge DLH). Same thing with Shane - he had been calling Shane out since 1999, it was Shane who decided not to over the span of 10 years. Shane was the one turning down the fight and making excuses. Cotto also turned down a Floyd fight earlier in his career because he felt he wasn't ready. Kostya, Freitas, Casamayor... there's video of Floyd calling all these guys out.


It's incredible that I read people ranking Pacqiauo above Floyd historically and knowing it's not a joke or a troll job. It's unbelievable. I constantly have to stand up for a guy I don't like.

I see I wasn't clear enough when I wrote the post and caused confusion. I wasn't saying Floyd ducked those guys and didn't try to make those fights (Oscar, Shane...etc.), just saying that for whatever reason some of the big ones got away and that hurts his standing in my rankings. I feel Roy, after Toney, was content to feed on subpar competition where Floyd just had circumstances against him. You are correct that Floyd pursued those big fights for years though.