....because he certainly didn't hold his own with Holyfield or LewisOriginally Posted by ross
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....because he certainly didn't hold his own with Holyfield or Lewis
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He didn't fight Holyield until 10 years after he won his first title!....because he certainly didn't hold his own with Holyfield or Lewis
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....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
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Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
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Keep preaching your love of Tyson man, it doesn't change the reality of the situation which is A) He was in the right place at the right time and STILL couldn't hang on to success and B ) Lewis and Holyfield beat the fuck out of him...but if you'd rather compare him to OLD Holmes and Frank Bruno be my guest. I thought I was being kind to him by grouping him in with good company, but I guess you're right he wasn't even competitive vs Evander and Lennox so no reason to list him in there.Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
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It was Lewis and Holyfield who never owned the division. No one has since Tyson.Keep preaching your love of Tyson man, it doesn't change the reality of the situation which is A) He was in the right place at the right time and STILL couldn't hang on to success and B ) Lewis and Holyfield beat the fuck out of him...but if you'd rather compare him to OLD Holmes and Frank Bruno be my guest. I thought I was being kind to him by grouping him in with good company, but I guess you're right he wasn't even competitive vs Evander and Lennox so no reason to list him in there.Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
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How do you figure that Evander and Lennox never owned the division? Especially Lennox, that guy cleaned out the division when it was in much better shape than when Tyson was champ.It was Lewis and Holyfield who never owned the division. No one has since Tyson.Keep preaching your love of Tyson man, it doesn't change the reality of the situation which is A) He was in the right place at the right time and STILL couldn't hang on to success and B ) Lewis and Holyfield beat the fuck out of him...but if you'd rather compare him to OLD Holmes and Frank Bruno be my guest. I thought I was being kind to him by grouping him in with good company, but I guess you're right he wasn't even competitive vs Evander and Lennox so no reason to list him in there.Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
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This gets said a lot. As if Tysons era of the late eighties was shit.Keep preaching your love of Tyson man, it doesn't change the reality of the situation which is A) He was in the right place at the right time and STILL couldn't hang on to success and B ) Lewis and Holyfield beat the fuck out of him...but if you'd rather compare him to OLD Holmes and Frank Bruno be my guest. I thought I was being kind to him by grouping him in with good company, but I guess you're right he wasn't even competitive vs Evander and Lennox so no reason to list him in there.Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
Tyson wiped the floor with Holmes. Holmes went on 4 years later to push Holyfield to a competitive 12 rounds.....
Holmes also beat Mercer clearly. The same Mercer who was robbed against Lewis.....
Basically, Tyson's left overs were too good for 90s fighters.
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Tyson's era was shit. There just wasn't the depth with fat guys like Tubbs, Page, Witherspoon, limited guys like Smith, Tucker and Ruddock or has beens like Holmes and Spinks (who was also tiny). Say whatever you want to rationalize your admiration of Tyson, but the guy has only one win over a HOF heavyweight and that was a washed up Holmes. Spinks will be a HOFer, but not for what he did at heavy, just in case someone wanted to try and sharpshoot.This gets said a lot. As if Tysons era of the late eighties was shit.Keep preaching your love of Tyson man, it doesn't change the reality of the situation which is A) He was in the right place at the right time and STILL couldn't hang on to success and B ) Lewis and Holyfield beat the fuck out of him...but if you'd rather compare him to OLD Holmes and Frank Bruno be my guest. I thought I was being kind to him by grouping him in with good company, but I guess you're right he wasn't even competitive vs Evander and Lennox so no reason to list him in there.Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
Tyson wiped the floor with Holmes. Holmes went on 4 years later to push Holyfield to a competitive 12 rounds.....
Holmes also beat Mercer clearly. The same Mercer who was robbed against Lewis.....
Basically, Tyson's left overs were too good for 90s fighters.
The 90's had Foreman, Evander, Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, the Klitschko brothers, Moorer, Byrd, Ibeabuchi...etc. No competition between the retreads Tyson feasted on and the depth and caliber during the 90's.
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Holyfield's victory over Tyson is a semi-valid one, but Lewis beat the fat, washed up shell of what used to be Mike Tyson. Tyson went on to lose two of his next three fights to Williams and McBride for fook sake. That's the Tyson Lewis beat - the shot Mike Tyson. I can't believe people think Lewis' victory over him is a credible one.Keep preaching your love of Tyson man, it doesn't change the reality of the situation which is A) He was in the right place at the right time and STILL couldn't hang on to success and B ) Lewis and Holyfield beat the fuck out of him...but if you'd rather compare him to OLD Holmes and Frank Bruno be my guest. I thought I was being kind to him by grouping him in with good company, but I guess you're right he wasn't even competitive vs Evander and Lennox so no reason to list him in there.Mike tyson was the heavyweight division from 86 to 90. No one has ever held all the titles together for as long since.....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
The young, dedicated and focused 80s Tyson is a completely different proposition.
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Re: Who is the next boxing superstar?
You mean the Tyson that was fighting such dangerous foes as Mike Jameson, David Jaco, Sammy Scaff, Marvis Frazier, and Steve Zouski?
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It is the DEFINITION of success: being at the right place at the right time and doing the right thing.
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