Who is the next boxing superstar?

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Mike Tyson was a different era.

The fact his old opponents he wiped the floor with can go in to the nineties and have good success over people that were supposedly fighters who could handle Mike shows how good Mike was.

When Lewis beat Tyson it was 16 years after Mike had won his first world title.

When Joe louis lost to Marciano it was only 14 years later. Different eras.

That second part is interesting? Who? Ok Holmes schools an over confident and ill advised Mercer...much like a Damiani had prior save for a single punch. Holmes pulled out every inch of shook & jive craft, guile and sharp jab to go 12 with Holyfield and then vomit all over his cornermen and self..literally, but by no means was that close. Holmes was also totally outjabbed and gifted a win vs Quinn Navarre, likewise twice out on his feet to Jesse Fergusson. Tucker made Douglas quit on his stool..certainly didn't translate into Tucker topping Tyson next or proving Douglas incapable of out boxing and beating Tyson. I don't think Lewis or Holyfield having tough fights and negative results speaks to Tysons mythical superiority "in his prime" but rather to each fighters level of competition and competiveness. Oh and often lost..Holyfield kicked Tysons ass..twice

What it shows was how good Tucker was and how quickly Tyson declined as King got in his head.

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Mike Tyson was a different era.

The fact his old opponents he wiped the floor with can go in to the nineties and have good success over people that were supposedly fighters who could handle Mike shows how good Mike was.

When Lewis beat Tyson it was 16 years after Mike had won his first world title.

When Joe louis lost to Marciano it was only 14 years later. Different eras.

That second part is interesting? Who? Ok Holmes schools an over confident and ill advised Mercer...much like a Damiani had prior save for a single punch. Holmes pulled out every inch of shook & jive craft, guile and sharp jab to go 12 with Holyfield and then vomit all over his cornermen and self..literally, but by no means was that close. Holmes was also totally outjabbed and gifted a win vs Quinn Navarre, likewise twice out on his feet to Jesse Fergusson. Tucker made Douglas quit on his stool..certainly didn't translate into Tucker topping Tyson next or proving Douglas incapable of out boxing and beating Tyson. I don't think Lewis or Holyfield having tough fights and negative results speaks to Tysons mythical superiority "in his prime" but rather to each fighters level of competition and competiveness. Oh and often lost..Holyfield kicked Tysons ass..twice

What it shows was how good Tucker was and how quickly Tyson declined as King got in his head.

Or maybe it shows that Tucker was just scared of the myth of Tyson and never gave himself a realistic chance to win. Here's another reality check for you: you are omitting an important aspect to Holmes performance vs Tyson, a Mercer and Evander. Holmes hadn't fought in two years when he walked into the ring cold vs Tyson. He learned his lesson (try reading articles on Holmes comeback sometime, and worked his way to Mercer, Evander, Mcall...etc. Holmes always said that he felt with some build up fights the Tyson debacle would've gone differently. Also, Holmes never pushed Evander like you make it sound. Evander suffered a honorific cut after being hit with an elbow, yet as stated above won a wide decision and had a Holmes puking at the final bell.

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Mike Tyson was a different era.

The fact his old opponents he wiped the floor with can go in to the nineties and have good success over people that were supposedly fighters who could handle Mike shows how good Mike was.

When Lewis beat Tyson it was 16 years after Mike had won his first world title.

When Joe louis lost to Marciano it was only 14 years later. Different eras.

That second part is interesting? Who? Ok Holmes schools an over confident and ill advised Mercer...much like a Damiani had prior save for a single punch. Holmes pulled out every inch of shook & jive craft, guile and sharp jab to go 12 with Holyfield and then vomit all over his cornermen and self..literally, but by no means was that close. Holmes was also totally outjabbed and gifted a win vs Quinn Navarre, likewise twice out on his feet to Jesse Fergusson. Tucker made Douglas quit on his stool..certainly didn't translate into Tucker topping Tyson next or proving Douglas incapable of out boxing and beating Tyson. I don't think Lewis or Holyfield having tough fights and negative results speaks to Tysons mythical superiority "in his prime" but rather to each fighters level of competition and competiveness. Oh and often lost..Holyfield kicked Tysons ass..twice

What it shows was how good Tucker was and how quickly Tyson declined as King got in his head.

Or maybe it shows that Tucker was just scared of the myth of Tyson and never gave himself a realistic chance to win. Here's another reality check for you: you are omitting an important aspect to Holmes performance vs Tyson, a Mercer and Evander. Holmes hadn't fought in two years when he walked into the ring cold vs Tyson. He learned his lesson (try reading articles on Holmes comeback sometime, and worked his way to Mercer, Evander, Mcall...etc. Holmes always said that he felt with some build up fights the Tyson debacle would've gone differently. Also, Holmes never pushed Evander like you make it sound. Evander suffered a honorific cut after being hit with an elbow, yet as stated above won a wide decision and had a Holmes puking at the final bell.

If Mike scared Tucker it was because he was a fearsome prospect back then. To last the distance you had to spoil or try to actually win, fight and risk getting knocked out by those quick combinations.

How long was Mayweather out when he fought Marquez? Leonard when he fought Hagler?

Holmes never pushed Holyfield? He pushed him to a decision did he not? He couldn't get out of the 4th round with Tyson. He was 4 years older when he fought Holyfield