Let's be honest---the ropes in Zaire DID look rather loose

[Master]

Ali tried to dance, he failed, and spent few rounds trying to find a new tactic. The 'rope a dope' tactic was a nice accident, the name itself was created by David Frost; watch the post fight interview...

That is one thing that I immediately noticed in the first round. Ali had intended to use his legs and not get stuck on the ropes but the surface of the ring was soft and he could not move around as easy. He probably changed his mind and tactics from that point.

[Bill Paxtom]

Roy 'Tiger' Williams

He was the one who taught Muhammad to use the Ropes, while they were
training in Zaire.

Roy was 'lumping' up Muhammad on a routine basis. He told Muhammad to just
rest on the Ropes, and let the big galoot punch himself out.

Roy never got the deserved credit.

[walrus]

Telling someone to take Foremans punches versus doing it are two different levels of credit. In interviews after the fight Foreman said he was afraid he was going to kill Ali and he never hit anyone harder. There is a great documentary about the affair I think it's called when we were kings or something to that effect. One of my favourite boxing documentaries

[Beanz]

Roy 'Tiger' Williams

He was the one who taught Muhammad to use the Ropes, while they were
training in Zaire.

Roy was 'lumping' up Muhammad on a routine basis. He told Muhammad to just
rest on the Ropes, and let the big galoot punch himself out.

Roy never got the deserved credit.

What is it to be then? You said earlier in the thread that it was a fixed fight and now you are suggesting that Ali's, "tactics" even if borrowed or learned, were credit worthy?

[Bill Paxtom]

It was 'fixed' and Roy taught Muhammad.

It can be both, as Muhammad went both ways.

[TitoFan]

It was 'fixed' and Roy taught Muhammad.

It can be both, as Muhammad went both ways.

Ali was bisexual??

[Beanflicker]

Yeah they were very loose... but in the end Foreman was an idiot and punched himself out. I mean loose ropes or not, standing still on the ropes should be an absolute gift for a guy like Foreman, but Ali took the blows and Foreman punched himself out like a dummy.

[Bill Paxtom]

George Foreman

Had he 'knocked' Muhammad Ali's head off {as expected' In Zaire}.

Does he >
A} Retire
B} Take 1975 off
C} Or get back to 'bopping'.

[Master]

George Foreman

Had he 'knocked' Muhammad Ali's head off {as expected' In Zaire}.

Does he >
A} Retire
B} Take 1975 off
C} Or get back to 'bopping'.

Get back to bopping