Let's be honest---the ropes in Zaire DID look rather loose

[walrus]

and ıt certaınly DID help Ali when he was on the ropes, as he could lean so far back ıt was unbelıevable. Foreman leanıng ın tryıng to reach Alı, he was already on the balls of hıs feet tryıng to reach the gangly Alı, and couldnt get planted well, then what wıth Alı pullıng Foreman's neck down and ın, pulllıng hım ınto hım. Foreman was nullıfıed.

Maybe.

I think what really helps ALi is that he was basically a Warlock = Male Witch, he used consciously or subsonciously real tricks of evil to lurk Foreman into defeat/ Foreman was not a Christian at that time, he had no protection. This is the SPIRITUAL truth behind the Ali's victory, ropes ae just details.

@NVSemin, it's hard to argue with your logic but Ali was a Muslim, just wondering how that fits into the scheme of things

[SugarBoxing]

and ıt certaınly DID help Ali when he was on the ropes, as he could lean so far back ıt was unbelıevable. Foreman leanıng ın tryıng to reach Alı, he was already on the balls of hıs feet tryıng to reach the gangly Alı, and couldnt get planted well, then what wıth Alı pullıng Foreman's neck down and ın, pulllıng hım ınto hım. Foreman was nullıfıed.

Maybe.

I think what really helps ALi is that he was basically a Warlock = Male Witch, he used consciously or subsonciously real tricks of evil to lurk Foreman into defeat/ Foreman was not a Christian at that time, he had no protection. This is the SPIRITUAL truth behind the Ali's victory, ropes ae just details.

@NVSemin, it's hard to argue with your logic but Ali was a Muslim, just wondering how that fits into the scheme of things

He is well known for verbally abusing his opponents. When I was younger, I did not think seriously about it. Now I realize this is the legit weapon of spiritual warefare, you are basically cursing your enemies. It does work 100 %. He did some voodoo stuff as well, jokingly, but it has damn serious consuquences

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ37lyT6u8Y

I think it cost Joe Fraizer a liver (liver cancer)

[Bill Paxtom]

Muhammad Ali

This was supposedly the same genius that was pathetic against Rudi Lubbers
{just before fighting George Foreman}, and even more pathetic against
Chuck Wepner {just after fighting George Foreman}.

Muhammad was no genius, he was a lucky guy who fought George Foreman at 4:00 AM
in the morning when he was sleepy.

[AdamGB]

Somebody should have told poor sleepy George to have an early night and a coffee!

Ali cheated, he had black coffee (or was it BLACK MAGIC nvsemin?! ) and some hash browns at 2am...













Fuck me... They're all out today...

[IamInuit]

There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Dundee fucked with the ropes in the Foreman fight or any other fight. Now you can have a village idiot repeat the charge over and over and over again but unsubstantiated bullshit does not become truth because you say it more times. It becomes sincere delusion be it foreign policy or boxing.

And for the record trainers, charlatans and most likely a few dwarfs have attempted to foul the ring in one way or the other from its size, to its foundation, the ropes and even the apron throughout history. Why a person would single out Ali and with absolute bull shit is anyone's guess. One would almost think he was the reason daddy left mommy.

Even if one was to suppose that Angelo toyed with the tension, not only would it have been stupid beyond belief to attempt such an experiment in such a fight but in the grand scheme of "cheating" throughout boxing history, it does not even make the list. Molehills do not grow into mountains outside the mind of a child.

[Beanz]

Muhammad Ali

This was supposedly the same genius that was pathetic against Rudi Lubbers
{just before fighting George Foreman}, and even more pathetic against
Chuck Wepner {just after fighting George Foreman}.

Muhammad was no genius, he was a lucky guy who fought George Foreman at 4:00 AM
in the morning when he was sleepy.

Having a rest on the Ropes is not the same as being sleepy. Imagine what would have happened had Ali NOT been sleepy

[Bill Paxtom]

Angelo Dundee

Was 'NO' genius.

When he first checked out the Ropes, he wanted them tighter, because they were too loose.

When he got the Boxing Ring crew together, they actually rotated the turn-buckles the wrong way,
loosening the Ropes.

Angelo had to get a 'pipe-wrench' with a 3 Foot Extension Bar to re-tighten them back to the
original tightness.

He wanted them tighter, but there was no more thread left on the adjusting bolt.


And, Dick Saddler was there with him the whole time.

[AdamGB]

Angelo Dundee

Was 'NO' genius.

When he first checked out the Ropes, he wanted them tighter, because they were too loose.

When he got the Boxing Ring crew together, they actually rotated the turn-buckles the wrong way,
loosening the Ropes.

Angelo had to get a 'pipe-wrench' with a 3 Foot Extension Bar to re-tighten them back to the
original tightness.

He wanted them tighter, but there was no more thread left on the adjusting bolt.


And, Dick Saddler was there with him the whole time.

There you go guys, the keys to victory:

Being sleepy.
Not knowing how to tighten bolts.

[Manos de Piedra]

What is happening on this forum today!?!?!

I logged in after a week or so and I've been cracking up reading some threads.
You have this dude who just hates on Ali non stop and brockonblockbust baited him big time with this thread. Then you have ykdadamaja and his Mayweather thread.
It's al happening today.

BTW I love the responses you guys are coming out with. Quality.