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Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
Out of body experience is similar to here in the body though, simply without it and no barriers to distance either. I used to do it alot when young and got seen once by the person I intentionally visited.
Scared him a bit, he thought I was the spirit of a monk come to get him.
I used to think the same thing when practicing transcendental meditation as a teenager and I believe that you believe such a thing to be true, as obviously your friend did too. That is not the same as reality though. The persistent soul is a peculiarly western and Christian concept that has it's origins in Roman and Greek Gods. Immortality as a distinct soul only diminishes the experience of life now on this planet as a human. It would be ungrateful and childish of me as a child of the Grand Master to deny this and like NVSemin look for a reward outside of this amazing existence in which both Heaven and Hell are omnipresent.

Curiously Hell is not mentioned in the Bible at all. It is a mistranslation of a Hebrew word for Grave,substituted by ignorant men who have relied on fear to control people.
Yes I agree totally on that. This has nothing to do with soul or heaven and hell or its mislaid concept of dimensional entrapment through material lust or total unconditional love and freedom without those things.
My soul did not undertake the journey as such,religion through people still only think in pairs,physical-soul. hevean -hell night ,day,black-white ,good -evil. There is no allowance for the next dimension which has none of this rubbish and wont have our baggage from here. Since that time of doing it natural as a kid, I realize its a light body not my soul and you can consciously activate it then use it like a craft to move.There are many layers to this one universe and many layers too us also. Cant think in terms of physical universe or physical body or mental experience as the same but is similar if you want that point of view to relate to.Back then my uncle never knew I was coming to see him he was working in his shed and looked up from working on a lathe and saw a monk in his back yard looking at him,it wasnt a monk Id donned new hooded jacket I just got and went I remember doing so.Heres the thing I went early hours in the morning I doubt he was working out there at that time on a noisy lathe I think he saw me later on in the day,I cant remember doing it at 2pm in the day but I was watching him working earlier from outside his shed. One could argue its a dream remembered. Theres more.