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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Mr B.B.

    I wouldn't say that Cassius ran.

    He kind of 'skipped' like a Fancy Boy.

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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Mr B.B.

    I wouldn't say that Cassius ran.

    He kind of 'skipped' like a Fancy Boy.
    yeah the Limp Dick Skip bwahahahaaa Veronica Porsche mentioned that too

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    Charles 'Sonny' Liston

    I'm a businessman first, and a boxer second. I go where the money is.
    Ain't no Fucking Trophy or Belt going to buy me a new Cadillac.

    And I like a new Cadillac every year. Whether I beat Clay or not, makes
    no difference to me. As long as I get paid, that is what matters.

    I'm in a no lose situation, as I have a contract {rematch} for other bouts
    in the future.

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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Charles 'Sonny' Liston

    I'm a businessman first, and a boxer second. I go where the money is.
    Ain't no Fucking Trophy or Belt going to buy me a new Cadillac.

    And I like a new Cadillac every year. Whether I beat Clay or not, makes
    no difference to me. As long as I get paid, that is what matters.

    I'm in a no lose situation, as I have a contract {rematch} for other bouts
    in the future.
    I have a Cadillac and it has been nothing but a headache. Of course I can't buy a new one every year.

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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Sonny Liston

    Likes the Cadillac Brougham, with a Car Telehone.

    He liked to be called 'Top Cat' or Charles when you called him.

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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    So what? That may have been the done thing at that time but if Sonny really liked money he makes more by beating Ali and controlling his own destiny. He lost both fights. Ali was superior and he never ran. Watch the first round he ran at Sonny and beat him silly.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    You are incorrect Sir,

    A}
    Sonny had no place to go anymore. Nobody wanted to deal with him, and his
    management team of Jack and Robert Nilon wanted to end their relationship with
    Sonny. They were looking to cash in their 'chips', and deals were to be made.

    B}
    If Sonny Boy defeats Cassius, just who does he fight next. Who can bring in big money.

    Ingemar Johansson was the only one who could bring in big bucks, but only in Sweden,
    as Sonny Boy was banned from fighting in Europe.

    'INGO" could not fight in the United States, as he had owed the Feds big bucks from the
    Floyd Patterson bouts.

    What 'decent' money bouts were out there, had Sonny Boy defeated Cassius Clay in
    February 1964.

    * Eddie Machen ............ No way, despite being the #2 Challenger at the time.
    * Harold Johnson .......... He just lost to Willie Pastrano
    * Doug Jones ............... Too small
    * Floyd Patterson .......... No way for a 3rd Bout
    * Ernie Terrell ............... Maybe, but there was no money
    * George Chuvalo .......... Ahh !!
    * Cleveland Williams ...... Not again.
    * Willie Pastrano ........... Too little
    * Henry Cooper ............ Oh Geez
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 11-21-2014 at 12:16 AM.

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    Default Re: Sonny Liston ~ "I Negotiated Both Contracts For My Bouts With Cassius Clay"

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    So what? That may have been the done thing at that time but if Sonny really liked money he makes more by beating Ali and controlling his own destiny. He lost both fights. Ali was superior and he never ran. Watch the first round he ran at Sonny and beat him silly.

    HEY! Don't give Bill such a hard time. He was told all this stuff by his old neighbour while they gave each other deep penetrating massages and talked about the sweaty black fighters from the days of their youth.

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