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    Default Re: Prime Bowe VS Prime Foreman who wins and how?

    Yeah but Bowe proved his chin enough times where I don't think you can reasonably bring it into question. Bowe got rocked and continued and he ate punches from a lot of real bangers and stayed upright.

    Foreman never fought anyone who could be compared to prime Riddick Bowe TBH, at least not in his early career. Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Ali... they weren't like Bowe.

    Prime Bowe would have given Foreman at any stage in his career a whipping, that's what's up.

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    I'm not doubting anything the great Eddie Futch said about Riddick Bowe, nor am I doubting Bowe was an extremely talented fighter. But as Spicoli said his technique and style required discipline and we're talking Riddick Bowe and that's why he had a short prime.

    George Foreman vs a guy who was all too willing to stand and trade when it was not beneficial to him....Foreman wins every single time! I'm sorry, but you're never going to out bomb George Foreman. Frazier couldn't do it, Ron Lyle couldn't do it, Michael Moorer couldn't do it and all those guys could punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I'm not doubting anything the great Eddie Futch said about Riddick Bowe, nor am I doubting Bowe was an extremely talented fighter. But as Spicoli said his technique and style required discipline and we're talking Riddick Bowe and that's why he had a short prime.

    George Foreman vs a guy who was all too willing to stand and trade when it was not beneficial to him....Foreman wins every single time! I'm sorry, but you're never going to out bomb George Foreman. Frazier couldn't do it, Ron Lyle couldn't do it, Michael Moorer couldn't do it and all those guys could punch.
    Yeah but nobody is saying "let's see who can have the longest career", we're talking one night only, one fight, prime vs prime. If you're talking discipline, longevity, ect, Foreman wins, that's not even debatable. He won a world title at 45.

    We're talking one fight, one night, prime vs prime, 1992 Riddick Bowe, 1975 George Foreman. Both guys in the best shape of their lives.

    And I'm not saying Bowe is going to out-bomb Foreman. But he would out jab him, he was faster, he was more accurate, he had more skill on the inside and the outside, and he had a wider variety of weapons.

    Boxing isn't all about who punches harder.

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    Default Re: Prime Bowe VS Prime Foreman who wins and how?

    We're asking what bombers Bowe fought... well what bombers did George fight? Frazier had big power in the left but no right hand, usually wore guys down. Ken Norton wasn't a bomber. Even Ron Lyle wasn't a big bomber, he could hit hard no doubt but he wasn't blasting guys out in the first few rounds.

    Herbie Hide hit harder than all of them. Not saying he was a better fighter, but in terms of pure power he hit harder.

    George ducked Earnie Shavers too, according to Shavers. George never fought big punchers, he went out of his way to avoid them. He wanted to be the guy with the big punch in the ring.

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    George fought Gerry Cooney in his comeback, George fought Shannon Briggs, Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer...contemporaries of Bowe whom Bowe never fought.

    In 1992 in the peak of his prime even then Riddick Bowe was flawed...George Foreman was ALWAYS dangerous. He could eat jabs a few rounds, but as soon as a big punch landed Riddick Bowe, much like Arturo Gatti, would give up sweet science boxing for a brawl and in doing that he'd open the door for Foreman to end the fight which he would.

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    Default Re: Prime Bowe VS Prime Foreman who wins and how?

    The guy that beat Evander in their first fight was a complete fighter. That Bowe just seems to have too many options for George. To explain my way of thinking:
    1. Frazier: ATG who George destroyed, but a short, squat guy who bobbed and weaved forward and relied on his left. George was MUCH larger and able to manhandle him and push him back where he needed.
    2. Norton: Good fighter who was pretty big, but seemed to freeze in fights vs guys with big punches (Foreman, Cooney).
    3: Ali/Jimmy Young: Ali was past his best but both were good boxers with sharp jabs who were able to frustrate George and tire him out for the win. That George wanted to walk guys down while winging HUGE shots that exhausted him.

    Now, prime Bowe had a good chin, great jab and was a very good boxer. He could be lured into slugging at times, but George was such a beast that Bowe would have remained wary all night and stuck to the plan. Not because Bowe was disciplined, but because Foreman was so menacing. Much like the Young fight, I see Bowe using lateral movement and his jab to frustrate George. Bowe gets rocked a couple of times and survives some shaky moments early. Once Foreman tires I see Bowe stepping it up and putting the right hand in regularly. Bowe takes over late for the win in a good fight.

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    Default Re: Prime Bowe VS Prime Foreman who wins and how?

    George fights walking ahead in a straight line he pushes his classic way to get space

    He pivots his opponents for space

    He throws wide uppercuts and hooks he repeats the same push patterns and pivots this is his style as I'm watching
    It's very basic really basic this is his style he is very slow on top of being sloppy and easy to read

    George's relentless pressure is what allowed him to land shots but those wide shots had to be repeated cause he was so easy to read and slow

    It's very easy to see these guys would be destroyed in the 90s

    To say George wins is odd he never even fought guys as advanced as guys bowe fought
    Last edited by joe smith; 01-28-2024 at 05:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Bowe got rocked and continued and he ate punches from a lot of real bangers and stayed upright.
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    Default Re: Prime Bowe VS Prime Foreman who wins and how?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Bowe got rocked and continued and he ate punches from a lot of real bangers and stayed upright.
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    Herbie Hide and the other guys I listed.

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