US snow storms

[Kirkland Laing]

American and China just agreed to cut emissions. Another triumph for Obama.

America stupidly agreed to cut emissions right away whereas China will wait a few years if they bother to act at all....but yeah "triumph for Obama"


Al Gore is an idiot, plain and simple

China actually won't do anything until 2030

China have to start cutting emissions then. But they can't increase emissions as much as they would otherwise have done between then and now. They were going to be building one gigantic (100 000 tons of CO2 a day pumped into the atmosphere) coal=powered station every year till 2050 and they've now abandoned those plans. They're going for wind and solar.

There have been major advances in solar technology and also battery storage capabilities and we're expecting solar power generation costs to ahieve parity with coal by 2020 and batteries capable of efficiently storing domestic-produced solar energy in ten years or less. A carbon tax or even a decent cap and trade policy would create funds to boost this and other energy innovation and speed it along so that we can transition our economies out of hydrocarbons asap. Unfortunately we have a bunch of fucking idiots funded by fossil fuel firms trying to keep things like they are.

[El Kabong]

Al Gore sold his television station to Arab oil tycoons that own/run Al Jazeera....Al Gore flies in private jets to give speeches.....Al Gore lives in a mansion that uses more electricity than most family dwellings....yet the Earth is doomed because I have an SUV, or because I eat red meat, or because I own a couple pets, or because I don't carpool, or because I don't invest in carbon offsets? Do you know what I say to that? I say Fuck Al Gore, fuck you, and fuck your idiotic notions of Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Climate changes on it's own, Milankovitch cycles, Orbital Forcing, fucking Christ these "Brilliant Scientists" that Al Gore says agree with him haven't even gotten the El Nino/La Nina cycles worked out yet but you're telling me they know what will happen with our climate 50-100 years in the future....FUUUUUUCK YOU they have no fucking clue! They are basing all of this off of bullshit computer models and they are all skewed. Why are they skewed? Because Colleges and Universities are more political than they are educational and grant money goes to those who prove what is politically advantageous.

You go buy into the second coming of paying for Indulgences...I'm sure it'll work out well for you

[Master]

If Palin really looked like that she would get a lot of votes.

[Kirkland Laing]

Al Gore sold his television station to Arab oil tycoons that own/run Al Jazeera....Al Gore flies in private jets to give speeches.....Al Gore lives in a mansion that uses more electricity than most family dwellings....yet the Earth is doomed because I have an SUV, or because I eat red meat, or because I own a couple pets, or because I don't carpool, or because I don't invest in carbon offsets? Do you know what I say to that? I say Fuck Al Gore, fuck you, and fuck your idiotic notions of Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Climate changes on it's own, Milankovitch cycles, Orbital Forcing, fucking Christ these "Brilliant Scientists" that Al Gore says agree with him haven't even gotten the El Nino/La Nina cycles worked out yet but you're telling me they know what will happen with our climate 50-100 years in the future....FUUUUUUCK YOU they have no fucking clue! They are basing all of this off of bullshit computer models and they are all skewed. Why are they skewed? Because Colleges and Universities are more political than they are educational and grant money goes to those who prove what is politically advantageous.

You go buy into the second coming of paying for Indulgences...I'm sure it'll work out well for you

Wealthy people will continue to do business with fossil fuel countries and fly on their private jets. Some of them will want to do something about global warming and some won't. What size their carbon footprint is is no basis to criticise them for wanting to save the planet, unless you have no fucking rational argument to make and you're just making ad hominem attacks in place of an actual argume


I'll enjoy mocking your future slow conversion to the full Al Gore viewpoint over the next few years as the GOP gradually get there.

[El Kabong]

Wealthy people will continue to do business with fossil fuel countries and fly on their private jets. Some of them will want to do something about global warming and some won't. What size their carbon footprint is is no basis to criticise them for wanting to save the planet, unless you have no fucking rational argument to make and you're just making ad hominem attacks in place of an actual argume


I'll enjoy mocking your future slow conversion to the full Al Gore viewpoint over the next few years as the GOP gradually get there.

That first paragraph is just a tribute to how much of a fucking dolt you are. You're Mr. "The Rich Need To Pay Their Fair Share" ...... but you're alright with them using more energy than "their fair share" so long as they "want to save the planet".....how prey tell do you measure their "want to save the planet" is it speeches, is it tweets, is it making films about the Anthropogenic Global Warming disaster that is to come? Or is it something that actually addresses the situation they claim to be so motherfucking worried about? The logic (or lack there of) you use means a celebrity...let's say Leonardo DiCaprio for arguments sake. So Leo hops on his Learjet and flies around the world and never lifts a finger to "save the planet" but he still professes the importance of everyone else "chipping in" you're alright with that? You're alright if he take hour long showers and uses Styrofoam and even if he litters....you're cool with all that so long as he says "Let's save the environment".......how typical of your ilk

The "Socialism for all but the Socialist" line of thought goes environmental



Yeah wait for my conversion to the Al Gore viewpoint, in fact hold your breath...it'll keep you from exhaling that horribly dangerous CO2 that's killing our planet.

[Kirkland Laing]

Wealthy people will continue to do business with fossil fuel countries and fly on their private jets. Some of them will want to do something about global warming and some won't. What size their carbon footprint is is no basis to criticise them for wanting to save the planet, unless you have no fucking rational argument to make and you're just making ad hominem attacks in place of an actual argume


I'll enjoy mocking your future slow conversion to the full Al Gore viewpoint over the next few years as the GOP gradually get there.

That first paragraph is just a tribute to how much of a fucking dolt you are. You're Mr. "The Rich Need To Pay Their Fair Share" ...... but you're alright with them using more energy than "their fair share" so long as they "want to save the planet".....how prey tell do you measure their "want to save the planet" is it speeches, is it tweets, is it making films about the Anthropogenic Global Warming disaster that is to come? Or is it something that actually addresses the situation they claim to be so motherfucking worried about? The logic (or lack there of) you use means a celebrity...let's say Leonardo DiCaprio for arguments sake. So Leo hops on his Learjet and flies around the world and never lifts a finger to "save the planet" but he still professes the importance of everyone else "chipping in" you're alright with that? You're alright if he take hour long showers and uses Styrofoam and even if he litters....you're cool with all that so long as he says "Let's save the environment".......how typical of your ilk

The "Socialism for all but the Socialist" line of thought goes environmental



Yeah wait for my conversion to the Al Gore viewpoint, in fact hold your breath...it'll keep you from exhaling that horribly dangerous CO2 that's killing our planet.

How big an individual's CO2 footprint is isn't relevant. Wealthy people are always going to use more energy than everybody else. It's what kind of energy they use that's important. Replace current fossil fuel energy with clean energy and nobody has a carbon footprint.

Some people, like Al Gore, want to create carbon-free energies while flying round in their private jets. Some people, like the Koch brothers, want to prevent any move away from fossil fuels while flying around in their private jets.

Al Gore wants people like himself to pay more for fossil fuels to spark the creation of new tech to replace carbon fuels. Once the new tech is created nobody will be warming the atmosphere when they fly anywhere.


If the only argument you can make is the private jet one then you don't have an argument.

[walrus]

American and China just agreed to cut emissions. Another triumph for Obama.

America stupidly agreed to cut emissions right away whereas China will wait a few years if they bother to act at all....but yeah "triumph for Obama"


Al Gore is an idiot, plain and simple

China actually won't do anything until 2030

China have to start cutting emissions then. But they can't increase emissions as much as they would otherwise have done between then and now. They were going to be building one gigantic (100 000 tons of CO2 a day pumped into the atmosphere) coal=powered station every year till 2050 and they've now abandoned those plans. They're going for wind and solar.

There have been major advances in solar technology and also battery storage capabilities and we're expecting solar power generation costs to ahieve parity with coal by 2020 and batteries capable of efficiently storing domestic-produced solar energy in ten years or less. A carbon tax or even a decent cap and trade policy would create funds to boost this and other energy innovation and speed it along so that we can transition our economies out of hydrocarbons asap. Unfortunately we have a bunch of fucking idiots funded by fossil fuel firms trying to keep things like they are.

There are uncontrolled underground coal mine fires burning all over China. These fires emit more co2 into the atmosphere than the US.

[El Kabong]

There are uncontrolled underground coal mine fires burning all over China. These fires emit more co2 into the atmosphere than the US.

True....but we must face facts, the Chinese are not white and therefore have no white guilt.....REPENT MY BROTHERS FOR THE END IS NEAR!!!!

[Xwetie]

Am i the only one who think global warming is good? It suppose to be warmer for each year!

[Master]

Am i the only one who think global warming is good? It suppose to be warmer for each year!

Could have fooled me. It is freezing here every year.

[Kirkland Laing]

American and China just agreed to cut emissions. Another triumph for Obama.

America stupidly agreed to cut emissions right away whereas China will wait a few years if they bother to act at all....but yeah "triumph for Obama"


Al Gore is an idiot, plain and simple

China actually won't do anything until 2030

China have to start cutting emissions then. But they can't increase emissions as much as they would otherwise have done between then and now. They were going to be building one gigantic (100 000 tons of CO2 a day pumped into the atmosphere) coal=powered station every year till 2050 and they've now abandoned those plans. They're going for wind and solar.

There have been major advances in solar technology and also battery storage capabilities and we're expecting solar power generation costs to ahieve parity with coal by 2020 and batteries capable of efficiently storing domestic-produced solar energy in ten years or less. A carbon tax or even a decent cap and trade policy would create funds to boost this and other energy innovation and speed it along so that we can transition our economies out of hydrocarbons asap. Unfortunately we have a bunch of fucking idiots funded by fossil fuel firms trying to keep things like they are.

There are uncontrolled underground coal mine fires burning all over China. These fires emit more co2 into the atmosphere than the US.

By some standards, the issue of underground coal fires may seem trivial and even futile. While 80% of China’s carbon emissions come from burning coal, the amount of those emissions from underground coal fires is miniscule in comparison with the output of the country’s coal-fired power plants, which generate twice as many CO2 emissions as the United States’. On top of that, “there are cheaper ways to cut emissions” than extinguishing coal fires, says Kuenzer, citing the enormous expense and limited resources for addressing fires in mining regions, as well as the fires’ tenacity. “The problem of coal fires will only vanish when the mineable coal is all gone,” she says.

https://www.chinadialogue.net/articl...s-unseen-story


Under the new deal they made with the Obama regime Chinahave to replace 20% of their coal-fired power stations with zero carbon power generation by 2030. They've already started doing it and have scrapped plans to build giant coal-fired plants all the way to 2050. They're going to be cutting on an ongoing basis from now till 2030 -- they can't just replace 20% in December 2029. And before we get to 2030 there'll be more climate deals and new technologies that solve most or all of the problem.