Justice!!! Naz goes into Hall of Fame. Fact.

[AdamGB]

Fenster's unable to tell me the best fighter Hamed beat, would anybody else like to?

[Fenster]

Fenster's unable to tell me the best fighter Hamed beat, would anybody else like to?

I can't pick Naz's best win, there are too many, that's why he's going in the Hall of Fame.

Why can't you answer how old you were when Naz beat Steve Robinson? That Welsh fella was obviously useless, right?

[ryanman]

Fenster's unable to tell me the best fighter Hamed beat, would anybody else like to?

I can't pick Naz's best win, there are too many, that's why he's going in the Hall of Fame.

Why can't you answer how old you were when Naz beat Steve Robinson? That Welsh fella was obviously useless, right?

Adam was 8 when that fight happened.
Being the old man I was at the time (10) I remember the fight well.

[AdamGB]

I was 9 I think, 1 year for each loss Robinson had before Hamed made it 10.

If a top 1 is too restrictive and a top 10 is obviously too wide, how about a top 5?

[Memphis]

Not as well as ICB does. He remembers The rumble in the Jungle like it was yesterday.

[Fenster]

So you was 9, Adam. Which makes you around 16 when Naz retired? Nice. What an impact he had on you.

Steve Robinson beat Colin McMillan (ask Scrap about him he was his trainer), Paul Hodkinson (former WBC champ), Duke McKenzie (three division "world" champ) and Freddy Cruz (former "world" title challenger) during his eight fight unbeaten streak as WBO champ.

I thought Robinson was a very good fighter at the time, that had beaten good fighters.

What did you think of him at the time?

[Andre]

Good on him for getting in,had fun watching him,he got away with some outrageous moves.

Whats the implication on who was the best fighter he fought? It was Mab.

Soto was no bum. There are others who were gifted fighters with long careers,loosened a fair few peoples bolts for good, ruined some fighters on the spot.

People seem to take offense when a fighter does it not sticking to traditional boxing, aside from the big mouth,disrespect of other fighters and the religious stuff.

Wish JMM had fought him back in the day,think he wanted to be the king of Mexico instead though and didnt want to be derailed on his aim at pulling the crowns off Mab and Morrales back then by some hard hitting outsider from Britain. Could of ended everything before it begun .

[Ron Swanson]

Good on him for getting in,had fun watching him,he got away with some outrageous moves.

Whats the implication on who was the best fighter he fought? It was Mab.

Soto was no bum. There are others who were gifted fighters with long careers,loosened a fair few peoples bolts for good, ruined some fighters on the spot.

People seem to take offense when a fighter does it not sticking to traditional boxing, aside from the big mouth,disrespect of other fighters and the religious stuff.

Wish JMM had fought him back in the day,think he wanted to be the king of Mexico instead though and didnt want to be derailed on his aim at pulling the crowns off Mab and Morrales back then by some hard hitting outsider from Britain. Could of ended everything before it begun .

Umm, Naz's own trainer admitted they wanted no part of JMM. On video, on several occasions. It was no secret they avoided JMM not the other way around.

[Dark Lord Al]

So you was 9, Adam. Which makes you around 16 when Naz retired? Nice. What an impact he had on you.

Steve Robinson beat Colin McMillan (ask Scrap about him he was his trainer), Paul Hodkinson (former WBC champ), Duke McKenzie (three division "world" champ) and Freddy Cruz (former "world" title challenger) during his eight fight unbeaten streak as WBO champ.

I thought Robinson was a very good fighter at the time, that had beaten good fighters.

What did you think of him at the time?

Jesus I feel old I was 24 when Hamed beat Robinson.

[AdamGB]

How old was you when Ali beat Liston? You can't tell Bill Paxton that he's full of shite unless you were 16+

[Memphis]

Fenster's unable to tell me the best fighter Hamed beat, would anybody else like to?

I'd put guys like McCullough, Vasquez, Johnson, Kelley, Soto, Medina, Ingle all in the same pot and say take your pick. I think people look at that pot of fighters and say (obligation comes into it a fair bit) world rated operators who were past, current or future World champions or you say they were all mediocre.


By my own definition they were all World class fighters.


For what it's worth, and this doesn't really add or detract from Naz's standing, the gloss had already come off when he beat them all.

[son of bonters]

Delighted for the guy. My all-time favorite boxer.

[Master]

Hopefully this will stop Fenster taking this any further.

[AdamGB]

You're right Fenster, being 9 means that he had no impact on me at all. Had I been old enough to be aware of him then who knows how all of the hype and excitement would have tainted my views.

I didn't get caught up in the hype like you 'was'.

All that gets left once the hype dies is the substance.

I'd agree with your list Memphis, but there's nobody of the Morales/Barrera/Marquez calibre, no elite fighter at their peak... A decent handful of decent fighters, even world level fighters do not make for more than a good career (which Hamed had, don't get me wrong). Not enough for me to call him one of the greatest.

In terms of career, I'd put him about level with Ricky Hatton. Some seem to think he was the eras answer Pacquiao or Mayweather

[ruthless rocco]

Hall of FAME!!!

Not Hall of Greatest Fighters of All Time.