Justice!!! Naz goes into Hall of Fame. Fact.

[Fenster]

Fenster's unable to tell me the best fighter Hamed beat, would anybody else like to?

I can't pick Naz's best win, there are too many, that's why he's going in the Hall of Fame.

Why can't you answer how old you were when Naz beat Steve Robinson? That Welsh fella was obviously useless, right?

[ryanman]

Fenster's unable to tell me the best fighter Hamed beat, would anybody else like to?

I can't pick Naz's best win, there are too many, that's why he's going in the Hall of Fame.

Why can't you answer how old you were when Naz beat Steve Robinson? That Welsh fella was obviously useless, right?

Adam was 8 when that fight happened.
Being the old man I was at the time (10) I remember the fight well.

[AdamGB]

I was 9 I think, 1 year for each loss Robinson had before Hamed made it 10.

If a top 1 is too restrictive and a top 10 is obviously too wide, how about a top 5?

[Memphis]

Not as well as ICB does. He remembers The rumble in the Jungle like it was yesterday.

[Fenster]

So you was 9, Adam. Which makes you around 16 when Naz retired? Nice. What an impact he had on you.

Steve Robinson beat Colin McMillan (ask Scrap about him he was his trainer), Paul Hodkinson (former WBC champ), Duke McKenzie (three division "world" champ) and Freddy Cruz (former "world" title challenger) during his eight fight unbeaten streak as WBO champ.

I thought Robinson was a very good fighter at the time, that had beaten good fighters.

What did you think of him at the time?

[Andre]

Good on him for getting in,had fun watching him,he got away with some outrageous moves.

Whats the implication on who was the best fighter he fought? It was Mab.

Soto was no bum. There are others who were gifted fighters with long careers,loosened a fair few peoples bolts for good, ruined some fighters on the spot.

People seem to take offense when a fighter does it not sticking to traditional boxing, aside from the big mouth,disrespect of other fighters and the religious stuff.

Wish JMM had fought him back in the day,think he wanted to be the king of Mexico instead though and didnt want to be derailed on his aim at pulling the crowns off Mab and Morrales back then by some hard hitting outsider from Britain. Could of ended everything before it begun .

[Ron Swanson]

Good on him for getting in,had fun watching him,he got away with some outrageous moves.

Whats the implication on who was the best fighter he fought? It was Mab.

Soto was no bum. There are others who were gifted fighters with long careers,loosened a fair few peoples bolts for good, ruined some fighters on the spot.

People seem to take offense when a fighter does it not sticking to traditional boxing, aside from the big mouth,disrespect of other fighters and the religious stuff.

Wish JMM had fought him back in the day,think he wanted to be the king of Mexico instead though and didnt want to be derailed on his aim at pulling the crowns off Mab and Morrales back then by some hard hitting outsider from Britain. Could of ended everything before it begun .

Umm, Naz's own trainer admitted they wanted no part of JMM. On video, on several occasions. It was no secret they avoided JMM not the other way around.

[AdamGB]

Oh god, you've really opened pandora's box there!

[Dark Lord Al]

So you was 9, Adam. Which makes you around 16 when Naz retired? Nice. What an impact he had on you.

Steve Robinson beat Colin McMillan (ask Scrap about him he was his trainer), Paul Hodkinson (former WBC champ), Duke McKenzie (three division "world" champ) and Freddy Cruz (former "world" title challenger) during his eight fight unbeaten streak as WBO champ.

I thought Robinson was a very good fighter at the time, that had beaten good fighters.

What did you think of him at the time?

Jesus I feel old I was 24 when Hamed beat Robinson.

[AdamGB]

How old was you when Ali beat Liston? You can't tell Bill Paxton that he's full of shite unless you were 16+

[Fenster]

If you're going to claim a fighter from a certain era was more hype than substance then you at least need to back that up by having some knowledge about his opponents. If you claim the fighter wasn't much cop then what does that say about his opponents? And his opponents opponents? And the "great" fighters from that era that have shared common opponents.

You can be the greatest of your era without beating a "great" fighter. Wlad hasn't beat a single man that will go close to being regarded as "great" (HOF bound) but he himself will be regarded as an all-time great. The best heavyweight of his era (one of numerous examples).

Kirkland Laing was beat a dozen times (KO'd eight), never won a "world" title. Who was his best win? Roberto Duran - a man that is regarded by every credible boxing sage on the planet as one the greatest that ever lived. Does that make Laing an all-time great? No.

(although I personally thought he was the bollocks back in the day )