Jack Dempsey fought 61 times in 13 years

[Master]

Today's boxer is more of an elite athlete trained rigorously. You are stupid beyond belief if you believe that. Chisroa was a joke against Fury. No way was he conditioned. He was just a punch bag. Are you blind or just ignorant.

Chisora's JOB is to train all day, every day for his fights.

So, TRANSLATION: DESPITE being well prepared for Fury, Chisora was unable to beat Fury because Fury is simply better than Chisora.

Props to Fury for beating a decent opponent like Chisora and proving his worth as a serious HW.

You like Frazier and Ali right?

Chisroa and Fury are basically the modern, stronger versions of each!

Your post get stupider everyday. The output of Chisora was worse than when he fought the first time. It was an abysmal effort. Do not compare him to Fraizier.

While we are on the subject of pitiful efforts Johnathan Banks against Target was embarrassing as well. For modern trained fighters who train full time, they are poor which is why Wlad is enjoying beating this crap year in year out. Easy money.

[Max Power]

Today's boxer is more of an elite athlete trained rigorously. You are stupid beyond belief if you believe that. Chisroa was a joke against Fury. No way was he conditioned. He was just a punch bag. Are you blind or just ignorant.

Chisora's JOB is to train all day, every day for his fights.

So, TRANSLATION: DESPITE being well prepared for Fury, Chisora was unable to beat Fury because Fury is simply better than Chisora.

Props to Fury for beating a decent opponent like Chisora and proving his worth as a serious HW.

You like Frazier and Ali right?

Chisroa and Fury are basically the modern, stronger versions of each!

Your post get stupider everyday. The output of Chisora was worse than when he fought the first time. It was an abysmal effort. Do not compare him to Fraizier.

While we are on the subject of pitiful efforts Johnathan Banks against Target was embarrassing as well. For modern trained fighters who train full time, they are poor which is why Wlad is enjoying beating this crap year in year out. Easy money.

Antonio Tarver is 46 years old and has only fought 1ce a year for the last 5 years. He clearly isn't a serious contender anymore, but he was an excellent boxer and obviously still good enough to beat Banks who exposed a few frauds but was never a serious factor himself and is now a part-time boxer, full-time trainer!

The correct comparison is champs+contenders to champs+contenders and social boxers to social boxers, past to present.

I don't care if you want to rubbish these 2 because for me it has little relevance!

Frazier and Ali were supposed to be the BEST!

On the contrary, it is in fact deplorable to compare Frazier FAVOURABLY against Chisora, who is in fact a SUPER-FRAZIER.

[Master]

Chisora could not carry Joe's jockstrap.

[Max Power]

Chisora could not carry Joe's jockstrap.

I find that statement particularly amusing, considering Chisora is strong as an ox and Joe Frazier, there is a good chance would actually not quite be strong enough to support Chisora's jock strap!



You want to see Joe Frazier try to carry something? Why don't you google Joe Frazier - SuperStars program lol

[Master]

Chisora could not carry Joe's jockstrap.

I find that statement particularly amusing, considering Chisora is strong as an ox and Joe Frazier, there is a good chance would actually not quite be strong enough to support Chisora's jock strap!



You want to see Joe Frazier try to carry something? Why don't you google Joe Frazier - SuperStars program lol

How do you know Chisora is strong as an ox? Because he weighs heavier? Again you make the mistake of equating strength with weight as well as newer being better. Joe was in better condition than Chisora has ever been in his fights.

[Max Power]

Chisora could not carry Joe's jockstrap.

I find that statement particularly amusing, considering Chisora is strong as an ox and Joe Frazier, there is a good chance would actually not quite be strong enough to support Chisora's jock strap!



You want to see Joe Frazier try to carry something? Why don't you google Joe Frazier - SuperStars program lol

How do you know Chisora is strong as an ox? Because he weighs heavier? Again you make the mistake of equating strength with weight as well as newer being better. Joe was in better condition than Chisora has ever been in his fights.

Joe was never in as good a condition as Chisora, don't be ridiculous! LOL, there was one time when Frazier was actually lean and 6-packed but that did not last long, normal Frazier was more chubbier than Chisora, just a smaller version.

But YOU make the mistake of equating being ripped with being in condition when that is demonstratably not so, same with being fat.

As for strength, I have NEVER equated heavy with strong, other than the fact the chances of being stronger when heavier are higher.

That's why I also say "x is heavier AND stronger than y", because they don't always go hand in hand. One thing that fat does NOT confer is strength!

However Chirsora lifts some hefty weights for his preparation, he is well muscled, built like a bull in fact and has more leverage. Frazier is diminutive, slender muscled and failed lifting weights that the average schoolboy today could TOY with.

They don't come much more UN-athletic than Joe Frazier. That's a fact!

Today, Joe and Clay would be viewed as they really were.. GROSSLY OUT OF SHAPE CRUISERWEIGHTS!

Take Frazier, make him a bit taller, sharpen his skills a bit, pump him full of steroids for about a year or so and THERE'S your Dereck Chisora! LOL

[Bill Paxtom]

Not Sure On How You're Looking At This

But, before Jack fought for the Heavyweight Championship, he stepped
into the Ring '60' times from August 1914 thru December 1918.

In 4 1/2 years as a Professional, Jack was fighting an average of '13' times
per year.

In those days, Barn-Storming bouts were taking place nearly every week.

The work was there, if you wanted it.