Sydney Seige

[ryanman]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

Remember the enemy put our captured soldiers and press agents etc in the military buildings and when they didnt have those sort of pawns to use they used their own civilians or one from opposite tribes in there.

Our boys knowingly bombed our own blood at times its what happens unfortunatley. At other times we go in under cover of night and risk others to save one and that can go very wrong too.

These taliban dont want eduction or rights to choose @Gandalf ,Dont you remember when they cut the heads off female teachers in Afghanistan out on the football oval? They take the ones they want to use and kill the educated ones they are scared of. Whimps . Male bearded fucking whimps who want total power over females,whimps who pick on the unarmed public and try to wipe out others dna off the planet.

Fuck them and their stupid religious rules they fight for.

Likewise, fuck the West and the stupid power games that they play. 1,000, 000 dead and half a million kids dead through sanction was no accident either. Child abuse, torture, illegal invasion....so morally superior. We have open borders, so if we are so bothered, then let all those that want freedom in and leave the world alone. However, don't get shirty when they don't like it after all and they try to change you.

Yeah let's also not get shirty if they behead aid workers that are risking their lives to help Syrian and Iraqi children. They have no just cause Miles. They aren't attacking western military or government targets.
ISIS are anti-Muslim. They kill Muslims mostly. Your portrayal of them as reacting to the crimes of the west is wrong.
Al Qaeda even disassociated themselves with them. Al Qaeda.
I would urge you if you feel strongly about this to read up on the different Jihadi groups and their origins, methods and stated goals.
Again I say it is incorrect to frame ISIS in the way that you are.

[Dia bando]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

Remember the enemy put our captured soldiers and press agents etc in the military buildings and when they didnt have those sort of pawns to use they used their own civilians or one from opposite tribes in there.

Our boys knowingly bombed our own blood at times its what happens unfortunatley. At other times we go in under cover of night and risk others to save one and that can go very wrong too.

These taliban dont want eduction or rights to choose @Gandalf ,Dont you remember when they cut the heads off female teachers in Afghanistan out on the football oval? They take the ones they want to use and kill the educated ones they are scared of. Whimps . Male bearded fucking whimps who want total power over females,whimps who pick on the unarmed public and try to wipe out others dna off the planet.

Fuck them and their stupid religious rules they fight for.

Likewise, fuck the West and the stupid power games that they play. 1,000, 000 dead and half a million kids dead through sanction was no accident either. Child abuse, torture, illegal invasion....so morally superior. We have open borders, so if we are so bothered, then let all those that want freedom in and leave the world alone. However, don't get shirty when they don't like it after all and they try to change you.

Yeah let's also not get shirty if they behead aid workers that are risking their lives to help Syrian and Iraqi children. They have no just cause Miles. They aren't attacking western military or government targets.
ISIS are anti-Muslim. They kill Muslims mostly. Your portrayal of them as reacting to the crimes of the west is wrong.
Al Qaeda even disassociated themselves with them. Al Qaeda.
I would urge you if you feel strongly about this to read up on the different Jihadi groups and their origins, methods and stated goals.
Again I say it is incorrect to frame ISIS in the way that you are.

Don't you think it's time to exterminate this plague, on humanity murdering anybody standing in there
way, truly savage barbaric acts carried out by Taliban criminals.

[ryanman]

True, all sides are equally crazy. Now the Taliban stepping it up too and I am sure a good cue to drone Pakistan once again. Around and around in circles. Maybe I'm wrong, but these people in charge don't seem very bright, they just repeat and repeat the same mistakes hoping it will go better each time. The West just needs a few moustaches at the top and the circle is complete.

The Taliban have just killed 126 in a Pakistan school. At least 100 of which were children. They have claimed it was a revenge attack for a Pakistani army attack against the Taliban in Warziristan. No mention of the west. People capable of such things can never come up with excuses or justification for such cowardly barbarity. It's 2014 and there is a world of difference between purposeful and accidental killing, however hard that may be to reconcile with the oversimplified meme like explanations pedalled by those who do nothing but spread fear. That's both ends, Farrage and Alex Jones.

Alright. 1,000,000 killed by the West in Iraq. How was that? Want some more, you are getting away lucky. You really are.

You see no difference between bombs being dropped on enemy targets that accidentally hit civilians and people dressed in school uniform walking into a school and murdering 126 children? The actions of the people involved are the same?
You are lying to yourself if you think that the pilot firing a missile at a military target but killing civilians instead (as awful as that is) and the man that looks into an innocent child's eyes and shoots it are the same type of animal.
Do you think that a reasonable response to the actions of a government is to murder woman and children of that nationality? I know you say it isn't be you do keep equating them.

I'm not blinkered from and blinded to the crimes of the West. Not at all. Far from it. But I can see a clear difference when talking about these individual actions.

Remember the enemy put our captured soldiers and press agents etc in the military buildings and when they didnt have those sort of pawns to use they used their own civilians or one from opposite tribes in there.

Our boys knowingly bombed our own blood at times its what happens unfortunatley. At other times we go in under cover of night and risk others to save one and that can go very wrong too.

These taliban dont want eduction or rights to choose @Gandalf ,Dont you remember when they cut the heads off female teachers in Afghanistan out on the football oval? They take the ones they want to use and kill the educated ones they are scared of. Whimps . Male bearded fucking whimps who want total power over females,whimps who pick on the unarmed public and try to wipe out others dna off the planet.

Fuck them and their stupid religious rules they fight for.

Likewise, fuck the West and the stupid power games that they play. 1,000, 000 dead and half a million kids dead through sanction was no accident either. Child abuse, torture, illegal invasion....so morally superior. We have open borders, so if we are so bothered, then let all those that want freedom in and leave the world alone. However, don't get shirty when they don't like it after all and they try to change you.

Yeah let's also not get shirty if they behead aid workers that are risking their lives to help Syrian and Iraqi children. They have no just cause Miles. They aren't attacking western military or government targets.
ISIS are anti-Muslim. They kill Muslims mostly. Your portrayal of them as reacting to the crimes of the west is wrong.
Al Qaeda even disassociated themselves with them. Al Qaeda.
I would urge you if you feel strongly about this to read up on the different Jihadi groups and their origins, methods and stated goals.
Again I say it is incorrect to frame ISIS in the way that you are.

Don't you think it's time to exterminate this plague, on humanity murdering anybody standing in there
way, truly savage barbaric acts carried out by Taliban criminals.

Yes. I think everybody would like to see the end of ISIS and the Taliban.

[El Kabong]

Yes. I think everybody would like to see the end of ISIS and the Taliban.

All Westerners maybe, but not all the goat herders in the most rural parts of Pakistan, Afghanistan. Not all the Muslims who have been radicalized....they don't wish to see the end of ISIS or the Taliban.

[brocktonblockbust]

Yes. I think everybody would like to see the end of ISIS and the Taliban.

All Westerners maybe, but not all the goat herders in the most rural parts of Pakistan, Afghanistan. Not all the Muslims who have been radicalized....they don't wish to see the end of ISIS or the Taliban.

and not all middle-class in the city centers of Hyderabad, Karachi, Lahore, Multan or islamabad either

[ryanman]

Yes. I think everybody would like to see the end of ISIS and the Taliban.

All Westerners maybe, but not all the goat herders in the most rural parts of Pakistan, Afghanistan. Not all the Muslims who have been radicalized....they don't wish to see the end of ISIS or the Taliban.

and not all middle-class in the city centers of Hyderabad, Karachi, Lahore, Multan or islamabad either

Nor the members of ISIS or the Taliban.....

I meant all of us here! FFS!

[ryanman]