Manny & Floyds run of opponents...wow

**imp** · 12-22-2014 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Fenster

That's why in the future Pac will be seen as the greater fighter. In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Unless Floyd actually faces - and beats - Pac. Then it all changes, of course.

Better fighter - pac

Better boxer - floyd

Does a better fighter beat a better boxer?...let history determine that answer.

**chris6878** · 12-22-2014 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by Fenster

That's why in the future Pac will be seen as the greater fighter. In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Unless Floyd actually faces - and beats - Pac. Then it all changes, of course.

Better fighter - pac

Better boxer - floyd

Does a better fighter beat a better boxer?...let history determine that answer.

First time you said something reasonable, without hugging nuts. Good shit!

**imp** · 12-22-2014 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by chris6878

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by Fenster

That's why in the future Pac will be seen as the greater fighter. In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Unless Floyd actually faces - and beats - Pac. Then it all changes, of course.

Better fighter - pac

Better boxer - floyd

Does a better fighter beat a better boxer?...let history determine that answer.

First time you said something reasonable, without hugging nuts. Good shit!

Lol.

Chris, the only nuts i hug are my own son.

I said it before and ill say it again..my respect and admiration of floyd mayweather starts and ends in the ring.

If course you have to admire his business mind and I wish that pac would have went the same way but its not going to happen so I can only side with the truth from the information that is exposed.

**Beanflicker** · 12-22-2014 05:30 AM

Floyd's run began in '98 when he beat up Genaro Hernandez and it's been going on ever since. Manny, as great as he is and as fantastic a career as he has had, has lost in every "timeframe" of his career: early, middle and "prime".

Roach and Pac cherry-picked as much as Floyd. After Manny beat the shit out of DLH, Roach admitted that they fought him because Roach had been watching DLH and saw that Oscar couldn't "pull the trigger" anymore and was essentially washed up. And really, if you truly examine both resumes in an unbiased manner, keeping in mind the context and timing of each win... there really isn't a whole lot of difference. Both guys fought and beat the shit out of a lot of tough, world class opposition.

Manny is a legit beast and ATG, but Floyd was the better fighter. He was more skilled, he was a smarter fighter and he had the ability to figure guys out and switch gears. If Floyd had a tough first 6 rounds, he adjusted and won the last 6. If he had a tough fight with a guy, in the rematch it wouldn't even be competitive. Manny never had that second and third gear, and he never could figure JMM out.

**SlimTrae** · 12-23-2014 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Floyd's run began in '98 when he beat up Genaro Hernandez and it's been going on ever since. Manny, as great as he is and as fantastic a career as he has had, has lost in every "timeframe" of his career: early, middle and "prime".

Roach and Pac cherry-picked as much as Floyd. After Manny beat the shit out of DLH, Roach admitted that they fought him because Roach had been watching DLH and saw that Oscar couldn't "pull the trigger" anymore and was essentially washed up. And really, if you truly examine both resumes in an unbiased manner, keeping in mind the context and timing of each win... there really isn't a whole lot of difference. Both guys fought and beat the shit out of a lot of tough, world class opposition.

Manny is a legit beast and ATG, but Floyd was the better fighter. He was more skilled, he was a smarter fighter and he had the ability to figure guys out and switch gears. If Floyd had a tough first 6 rounds, he adjusted and won the last 6. If he had a tough fight with a guy, in the rematch it wouldn't even be competitive. Manny never had that second and third gear, and he never could figure JMM out.

True.

**imp** · 12-23-2014 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Floyd's run began in '98 when he beat up Genaro Hernandez and it's been going on ever since. Manny, as great as he is and as fantastic a career as he has had, has lost in every "timeframe" of his career: early, middle and "prime".

Roach and Pac cherry-picked as much as Floyd. After Manny beat the shit out of DLH, Roach admitted that they fought him because Roach had been watching DLH and saw that Oscar couldn't "pull the trigger" anymore and was essentially washed up. And really, if you truly examine both resumes in an unbiased manner, keeping in mind the context and timing of each win... there really isn't a whole lot of difference. Both guys fought and beat the shit out of a lot of tough, world class opposition.

Manny is a legit beast and ATG, but Floyd was the better fighter. He was more skilled, he was a smarter fighter and he had the ability to figure guys out and switch gears. If Floyd had a tough first 6 rounds, he adjusted and won the last 6. If he had a tough fight with a guy, in the rematch it wouldn't even be competitive. Manny never had that second and third gear, and he never could figure JMM out.

True.

It is very true but a post like that will fade away or be overlooked as the majority don't want to believe that.

Let's be honest..its better for bob and his army to not have the fight so they can finish their respective careers and bob can always say in years to come "woulda coulda shoulda".

Another loss for pac from mayweather would have a huuuuge effect on bob arum mentally, physically and financially even though he's minted.

Do you really think a 90 yr old bob arum wants his former pound for pound fighter beating his current pound for pound fighter?

Its about pride and power.