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    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.
    Well it goes back to what my old cuban coach said you either got elasticity or you don't. Whatever you do blocking,stance,moving forward you're still gonna get knocked out. Just recently I had the chance to work out with Deontay Wilder when I shared with Deontay some of your ideas Wayne, I remember Deontay smiling and he said tell that guy that he can do what ever he wants but when those hands come down. Bomb squad. Tru dat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.
    Well it goes back to what my old cuban coach said you either got elasticity or you don't. Whatever you do blocking,stance,moving forward you're still gonna get knocked out. Just recently I had the chance to work out with Deontay Wilder when I shared with Deontay some of your ideas Wayne, I remember Deontay smiling and he said tell that guy that he can do what ever he wants but when those hands come down. Bomb squad. Tru dat.
    For someone who's supposedly trained with Cubans, undefeated pros and national level coaches you sure don't know shit about boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
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    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.
    Well it goes back to what my old cuban coach said you either got elasticity or you don't. Whatever you do blocking,stance,moving forward you're still gonna get knocked out. Just recently I had the chance to work out with Deontay Wilder when I shared with Deontay some of your ideas Wayne, I remember Deontay smiling and he said tell that guy that he can do what ever he wants but when those hands come down. Bomb squad. Tru dat.

    For someone who's supposedly trained with Cubans, undefeated pros and national level coaches you sure don't know shit about boxing.
    What are you going to do? Throw a jab and long cross... get off your one or two punches and I'll take a step forward for every punch that you throw at me until we meet in the corner.
    What are you gonna do when we're in the pocket together. whats the pocket? Do this go to the bag and put your right hand to the pocket of the bag and come forward until the arm forms a 90° right angle. Let's do the punches that I do every day remember small movements please throw this combo 1,2,5,6 on the bodyshots turn the thumbs in. Now! The left hook, rule in boxing never throw a hook standing still. Take your left foot and step to the left. Put your weight on the left foot and press down and come up using the power of the left toe! Don't turn over the left ankle! Keep your left elbow in! As your throwing the left hook let the elbow travel up the side of the body 3-4 cm. now turn over the thumb until your arm and hand looks like a shovel try not to turn the elbow over too much over remember the movement is small. It's permissible to slide your shoulder to right slightly as you throw the hook. Now step out to the left side of the bag. 1,2,5,6,3 step out to the left side of the bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.
    Well it goes back to what my old cuban coach said you either got elasticity or you don't. Whatever you do blocking,stance,moving forward you're still gonna get knocked out. Just recently I had the chance to work out with Deontay Wilder when I shared with Deontay some of your ideas Wayne, I remember Deontay smiling and he said tell that guy that he can do what ever he wants but when those hands come down. Bomb squad. Tru dat.

    For someone who's supposedly trained with Cubans, undefeated pros and national level coaches you sure don't know shit about boxing.
    What are you going to do? Throw a jab and long cross... get off your one or two punches and I'll take a step forward for every punch that you throw at me until we meet in the corner.
    What are you gonna do when we're in the pocket together. whats the pocket? Do this go to the bag and put your right hand to the pocket of the bag and come forward until the arm forms a 90° right angle. Let's do the punches that I do every day remember small movements please throw this combo 1,2,5,6 on the bodyshots turn the thumbs in. Now! The left hook, rule in boxing never throw a hook standing still. Take your left foot and step to the left. Put your weight on the left foot and press down and come up using the power of the left toe! Don't turn over the left ankle! Keep your left elbow in! As your throwing the left hook let the elbow travel up the side of the body 3-4 cm. now turn over the thumb until your arm and hand looks like a shovel try not to turn the elbow over too much over remember the movement is small. It's permissible to slide your shoulder to right slightly as you throw the hook. Now step out to the left side of the bag. 1,2,5,6,3 step out to the left side of the bag.
    What the fuck are you talking about? Can you even read? Do you actually understand a word of what anyone writes?

    If I thought you actually trained I'd be worried you're taking a few too many to the dome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.
    Well it goes back to what my old cuban coach said you either got elasticity or you don't. Whatever you do blocking,stance,moving forward you're still gonna get knocked out. Just recently I had the chance to work out with Deontay Wilder when I shared with Deontay some of your ideas Wayne, I remember Deontay smiling and he said tell that guy that he can do what ever he wants but when those hands come down. Bomb squad. Tru dat.

    For someone who's supposedly trained with Cubans, undefeated pros and national level coaches you sure don't know shit about boxing.
    What are you going to do? Throw a jab and long cross... get off your one or two punches and I'll take a step forward for every punch that you throw at me until we meet in the corner.
    What are you gonna do when we're in the pocket together. whats the pocket? Do this go to the bag and put your right hand to the pocket of the bag and come forward until the arm forms a 90° right angle. Let's do the punches that I do every day remember small movements please throw this combo 1,2,5,6 on the bodyshots turn the thumbs in. Now! The left hook, rule in boxing never throw a hook standing still. Take your left foot and step to the left. Put your weight on the left foot and press down and come up using the power of the left toe! Don't turn over the left ankle! Keep your left elbow in! As your throwing the left hook let the elbow travel up the side of the body 3-4 cm. now turn over the thumb until your arm and hand looks like a shovel try not to turn the elbow over too much over remember the movement is small. It's permissible to slide your shoulder to right slightly as you throw the hook. Now step out to the left side of the bag. 1,2,5,6,3 step out to the left side of the bag.
    What the fuck are you talking about? Can you even read? Do you actually understand a word of what anyone writes?

    If I thought you actually trained I'd be worried you're taking a few too many to the dome.
    I'm telling you that I don't believe in a system! What I do believe in is fighting, remember Everyones got a plan until they get punched in the face. When I go in the ring I have no system or game plan... Get it no I've got no system!

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    Bcbud you would never get past my jab to get me to a corner coz i used to tell dumbasses like you how to defend my jab and id throw bombs where i know your gonna be because of your half assed defence and stupid rules, if you never throw a left hook planteed you aint ever thrown a desent left hook end of.

    Like jms said if i believed youd ever even sparred before id be worried for you, deontay wilder, like id even be impressed by that. I noticed you dont have a response to my openings, that was common. Why dont you post a video of you and your friends discussing a system? Discussing a response to my opening? Rather than just smiling to eachother about it? Whats your name bcbud? Ill ask him about your conversation on twitter now, see what he says about you? Whats ur name BCBUD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneFlint View Post
    Bcbud do you even box? Of course fighters have a system. By what your saying there is no point in teaching any fighter nothin coz theyll go back to what theyre comfy with? Why bother teaching anything? Stance? Combinations? Lmao seriously your claiming you box with national coaches? Lol

    I had a system like any reall fighter does. If i didnt want you to jab i would come under and over it with hard combos. If i want you to jab then im not countering as im looking to get the timing down to take your head off with these shit jabs your throwing.

    That is just a glimpse of my openings. If you aint got a system you aint gunnado much in any fight.
    Well it goes back to what my old cuban coach said you either got elasticity or you don't. Whatever you do blocking,stance,moving forward you're still gonna get knocked out. Just recently I had the chance to work out with Deontay Wilder when I shared with Deontay some of your ideas Wayne, I remember Deontay smiling and he said tell that guy that he can do what ever he wants but when those hands come down. Bomb squad. Tru dat.

    For someone who's supposedly trained with Cubans, undefeated pros and national level coaches you sure don't know shit about boxing.
    What are you going to do? Throw a jab and long cross... get off your one or two punches and I'll take a step forward for every punch that you throw at me until we meet in the corner.
    What are you gonna do when we're in the pocket together. whats the pocket? Do this go to the bag and put your right hand to the pocket of the bag and come forward until the arm forms a 90° right angle. Let's do the punches that I do every day remember small movements please throw this combo 1,2,5,6 on the bodyshots turn the thumbs in. Now! The left hook, rule in boxing never throw a hook standing still. Take your left foot and step to the left. Put your weight on the left foot and press down and come up using the power of the left toe! Don't turn over the left ankle! Keep your left elbow in! As your throwing the left hook let the elbow travel up the side of the body 3-4 cm. now turn over the thumb until your arm and hand looks like a shovel try not to turn the elbow over too much over remember the movement is small. It's permissible to slide your shoulder to right slightly as you throw the hook. Now step out to the left side of the bag. 1,2,5,6,3 step out to the left side of the bag.
    What the fuck are you talking about? Can you even read? Do you actually understand a word of what anyone writes?

    If I thought you actually trained I'd be worried you're taking a few too many to the dome.
    I'm telling you that I don't believe in a system! What I do believe in is fighting, remember Everyones got a plan until they get punched in the face. When I go in the ring I have no system or game plan... Get it no I've got no system!
    A system isn't about having a plan, it's about having an answer to everything. It's about being drilled in every aspect of the game until you can execute without thought, then you can make decisions in the ring without having to think about everything you're doing. A fighter who wasn't taught a system is incomplete and ripe for an ass kicking as soon as I figure out that what he likes to do is all he's good at, and I know how to take away what he likes to do because I was taught a system.

    By the way, fun fact, the reason most boxers think MMA fighters can't fight for shit is because they don't have a system. Well they do, but they have one for boxing, one for kickboxing, one for wrestling, one for submission grappling, etc. When they have to put it all together, the systems don't work together. So guys don't have confidence in their defense when they have to put it all together, which fucks up their range and everything else.

    This stuff is over your head. Lol, keep working with those Cubans and national coaches that you've never met. I've heard visualition can be a good learning technique.

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