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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
I have slammed David Haye for all the things he should be slammed for. There are some things about Ali that can be admired far more than Haye even.Originally Posted by Master
Boxing ability is not one of them at all.
Almost all of Haye's career is brilliant.
To what bit can you point to of Muhammad Ali's career on film and tell me that what he did was brilliant? Go on try me. Tell me the fight, tell me the part!
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
Ali career is the best ever.
He fought and beat 3 great heavyweight champions.
olympic gold medal
He transecended the sport.
He lost 3 years of his peak in boxing.
Noone else has shown more heart and courage than him at the highest level
Fight of the century, thrilla in manilla and rumble in the jungle are true events in boxing.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
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Frazier I - Ali's most clinchiest fight and the most clinchiest of all time until Wlad vs Povetkin. Ali was almost completely defenceless and got smashed from pillar to post by a diminutive 1-dimensional fighter who couldn't even throw a straight punch who would have knocked Ali out were he not such a featherfist. You credit Ali for a fight which he LOST. Plus it was a BORING fight.
Frazier II & III - Ali clinched over 150 times in 12 rounds, yet never had a point taken away. In Manila Futch pulled the plug on Frazier just as Ali was getting ready to quit.
I give Frazier 2 of the 3 fights as do many others.
Rumble in the Jungle was a magnetizing fight, agreed. In terms of pure action it was of lower pace and action than Wladimir vs Mormeck! The fact he got the win over George was great in any case, but his method of laying on the ropes until Geroge punched himself out was nothing less than deplorable. Never again would this tatic work and as much credit has to be given to the stupidity of George for losing it as has to be given to Ali for winning. But there's more...
Foreman was effectively held prisoner in a stockade (Ali was put up in the presidential suite) and couldn't spar for a month beforehand because of a cut eye. What with that, the setting in a thuggish third world police state, the loose ropes and the quick count, a very strange fight with odd circumstances that benefitted Ali. He was also reluctant to rematch, in spite of Foreman campaigning for one.
^THIS is what you chose to highlight of Muhammad's career to sell him? These days it would be called pathetic, I'm sorry!
Wladimir for instance fought and beat more than 3 great HW champions too (where great is taken to mean a great boxer, not subjectively)
Wlad won an Olympic gold medal at SHW, Ali at LHW
How did Ali "transcend the sport", he was a boxer in the ring and that's all that counts.
How did he show more heart and courage than any other boxer? Like Lamon Brewster? Or Chris Byrd for examples? or Evander Holyfield?
Vitali Klitschko was off for 4 years with injury and in his first fight back took out the HW title vs feared puncher Peter.
Your points are not very relevant at all!
Last edited by Max Power; 12-29-2014 at 05:23 PM.
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
You hate for Ali is almost as embarrassing as your love for the modern heavyweight.
Name 1 fight Wlad is in that will be remembered?
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
well now THAT explains it @MasterI have slammed David Haye up the ass. There are some things about Ali that can be admired far more than Haye even.
Boxing ability is not one of them at all.
Almost all of Haye's career is brilliant.
To what bit can you point to of Muhammad Ali's career on film and tell me that what he did was brilliant? Go on try me. Tell me the fight, tell me the part!
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
Tex Cobb:"Larry Holmes doesn't hit as hard as Earnie Shavers. Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him.""Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
Ok not going to read through this but wtf is with Shavers shit he hit hard but never won shit. Also gifs are kinda newer thing and Shavers kinda of a fucking nobody now i mean he was a contender in his day. Shavers is hard hitting gatekeeper why is his name on so much shit dear god.
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Because there are 2 guys here in particular, namely @brocktonblockbust and @Bill Paxtom that are trying to blow more smoke up his ass that the average shuttle launch produces.
As if he was something to be held in awe.
Pathetic!
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They are lobbying for Shavers, I liked him myself, but I'm getting tired of it too.
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Re: 1 Earnie shavers gif on google images, THIS IS A FKING DISGRACE!!
Earnie hit so hard, some fighters wanted to shoot him. Literally.They are lobbying for Shavers, I liked him myself, but I'm getting tired of it too.
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