Haye vs Holyfield

[AdamGB]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

[Max Power]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

Yes, all this proves that Holyfield has a much stronger chin than Haye, definitely.

Bascially the reason Haye vs Holyfield IS a competitive fight is BECAUSE of Holyfield's chin, which was the mainstays of Holyfield's success.

[Mr140]

Holyfield knocks him out late most likely ever time Haye had speed and power but Holyfeild would make that fight dirty as fuck and were him down. Haye had stamina problems and a chin problem the lose Thompson the creep keeper should hurt him because by his 12 fight Holyfeild was lineal champ. Moorer could ice Haye just as easy not saying he win but Moorer hit like a truck an was fast as shit him self. The buzzsaw could give Haye some big problems as well don't kid your self cw Haye could be out hustled and put to sleep. As for Holyfeild Wald thing rematch with Bowie and his close fight with Lewis at 37 i give him a chance on Wald. Acutely i take step further i say since Holyfeild might be underdog he end up knocking Wald out because that what Holyfeild did he beat people that he should not have. Holyfeild hw career is up and down but shit he fought for 26 years and most of his lose are after 40 which for a fighter who depended on stamina and out put after late 30's can effect them pretty bad because he was not a stone hand man and he was not 10 feet tall so lose of speed and out put pretty much ends it.

[ross]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

[Max Power]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

[ross]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

[Max Power]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

[ross]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

Out of 9 fights including winning the world title while cruiser weight world champion Mormeck only stopped 4 fighters!

Out of 7 fights, Holyfield only couldn't stop one!

Moron.....

[Max Power]

Yeah you are right @ross

Mormeck isn't as good a KOer as Holyfield.

Stand corrected!

[Primo Carnera]

[/QUOTE]

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud![/QUOTE]
Styles may make fights, but Prime vs Prime, Tyson beats the shit out of Holyfield , Tyson, Wlad, Vitaly, and Uncle Tom Cobley and all!

[AdamGB]

As for Cunningham, he was put on his arse by a fat 10 fight novice and dropped twice by Amir Mansour... I think Haye stands a chance lol

[p4pking]

Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

Michael Moorer was very very good at that point, what are you on about?! He was probably the best southpaw HW ever for a time, and hit really hard himself. The Holyfield that beat Tyson would have flattened Haye imo, Haye couldn't have possibly hurt him or sustained a workrate that would allow him to win without gassing out. I'm sure it would have been a great fight, but Evan Fields had way to much in the tank to lose to Haye.

[Master]

If Max says Haye would beat Holyfield we can all safely assume the opposite is correct.

If Tyson could not knock down Holyfield then Haye would not bother him either. Evander would man handle Haye and stop him in the fight.

[oakleyno1]

Bowe taking the shots he did vs golata from haye... Ouch!

On a prime v prime note I'd love to see haye bowe!

[ross]

Bowe taking the shots he did vs golata from haye... Ouch!

On a prime v prime note I'd love to see haye bowe!

Or Haye taking the shots Holyfield did from Bowe?



Thats where it gets silly