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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Boxrec are the fairest. Its a scoring system. Its not a sanctioning body or magazine with influence that make money.

    As for height, Tysons 6th opponent Scott Belshaw is 6.7" Tyson fought him when Scott only had one loss and on points, he had a record of 10.1.0.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Boxrec are the fairest. Its a scoring system. Its not a sanctioning body or magazine with influence that make money.

    As for height, Tysons 6th opponent Scott Belshaw is 6.7" Tyson fought him when Scott only had one loss and on points, he had a record of 10.1.0.
    Boxrec is demonstratably among the worst. It artificially constructs ratings to put the most popular boxers at the top obviously through a scoring system that does not make any sense at all.

    Have you actually read the rules that Boxrec applies?

    Browne is obviously a more dangerous and much better opponent than Hammer you fool!

    Fury is not ALLOWED to fight Browne for that reason!

    The IBO might be a sanctioning body but it's entire purpose was designed to specify who the REAL champion is as opposed to the corruption of the major bodies. Since atleast one of the champs of the major 4 are the REAL champ, for this reason the IBO belt is normally always tied up with a major belt also.
    Last edited by Max Power; 01-02-2015 at 01:28 PM.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Boxrec have 46-year-old Antonio Tarver rated as the 7th best heavyweight in the world. He's had TWO fights at the weight - Mike Sheppard (21-15-1) and Johnathon Banks (29-2-1).

    Unless you can explain exactly why that is fair, I suggest you never bring up boxrec rankings again.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Boxrec have 46-year-old Antonio Tarver rated as the 7th best heavyweight in the world. He's had TWO fights at the weight - Mike Sheppard (21-15-1) and Johnathon Banks (29-2-1).

    Unless you can explain exactly why that is fair, I suggest you never bring up boxrec rankings again.
    Jonothan banks is better than anyone Wilder, Browne and Price have faced. Its also how he beat him. Pretty easily.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Boxrec have 46-year-old Antonio Tarver rated as the 7th best heavyweight in the world. He's had TWO fights at the weight - Mike Sheppard (21-15-1) and Johnathon Banks (29-2-1).

    Unless you can explain exactly why that is fair, I suggest you never bring up boxrec rankings again.
    Jonothan banks is better than anyone Wilder, Browne and Price have faced. Its also how he beat him. Pretty easily.
    Jonathon Banks best wins are Eliseo Castillo who can't punch a hole through the surface tension of water and Seth Mitchell who doesn't even know how to box and can't take a hard punch either.

    He has never been a major contender and never will be because he is the trainer of Wladimir Klitschko.

    Antonio Tarver is a veteran boxer and was a multiple champ at sub HW but his credibility at HW was non-existent and he climbed the rankings to the top 10 by beating an unranked and irrelevant opponent.

    WTF is wrong with you?

    I once wrote an article "What the heck, Boxrec" I will try find it LOL
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Boxrec have 46-year-old Antonio Tarver rated as the 7th best heavyweight in the world. He's had TWO fights at the weight - Mike Sheppard (21-15-1) and Johnathon Banks (29-2-1).

    Unless you can explain exactly why that is fair, I suggest you never bring up boxrec rankings again.
    Jonothan banks is better than anyone Wilder, Browne and Price have faced. Its also how he beat him. Pretty easily.
    Okay... so beating Banks, who was coming off a loss, justifies being rated the 7th best fighter in the world? If the win is that impressive then why is Seth Mitchell, the man that beat Banks before Tarver, not currently rated in the top 100 by Boxrec? Chris Arreola, the man that knocked Seth Mitchell out in 1 round, is currently ranked 19th.

    Jonathan Banks DREW with Jason Gavern.

    Lucas Browne knocked Gavern out in round 3 and Wilder knocked Gavern out in round 4. Michael Sprott beat Gavern. Anthony Joshua destroyed Sprott in one round.

    So why is Banks better than them? And how does Tarver's win make him a top ten heavyweight?
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Boxrec have 46-year-old Antonio Tarver rated as the 7th best heavyweight in the world. He's had TWO fights at the weight - Mike Sheppard (21-15-1) and Johnathon Banks (29-2-1).

    Unless you can explain exactly why that is fair, I suggest you never bring up boxrec rankings again.
    Jonothan banks is better than anyone Wilder, Browne and Price have faced. Its also how he beat him. Pretty easily.
    Okay... so beating Banks, who was coming off a loss, justifies being rated the 7th best fighter in the world? If the win is that impressive then why is Seth Mitchell, the man that beat Banks before Tarver, not currently rated in the top 100 by Boxrec? Chris Arreola, the man that knocked Seth Mitchell out in 1 round, is currently ranked 19th.

    Jonathan Banks DREW with Jason Gavern.

    Lucas Browne knocked Gavern out in round 3 and Wilder knocked Gavern out in round 4. Michael Sprott beat Gavern. Anthony Joshua destroyed Sprott in one round.

    So why is Banks better than them? And how does Tarver's win make him a top ten heavyweight?
    Ok, I never noticed Tarver has gone to 7! That is daft. Top 30 maybe top 20. They must have used points from his light heavy career. Theres no way he should be higher than Cunningham thats for sure.

    Maybe I stand corrected but it would also be a fact if Browne were to face Hammer that would be his best opponent by a mile and Hammer would stand every chance of winning.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Boxrec have 46-year-old Antonio Tarver rated as the 7th best heavyweight in the world. He's had TWO fights at the weight - Mike Sheppard (21-15-1) and Johnathon Banks (29-2-1).

    Unless you can explain exactly why that is fair, I suggest you never bring up boxrec rankings again.
    Jonothan banks is better than anyone Wilder, Browne and Price have faced. Its also how he beat him. Pretty easily.
    Okay... so beating Banks, who was coming off a loss, justifies being rated the 7th best fighter in the world? If the win is that impressive then why is Seth Mitchell, the man that beat Banks before Tarver, not currently rated in the top 100 by Boxrec? Chris Arreola, the man that knocked Seth Mitchell out in 1 round, is currently ranked 19th.

    Jonathan Banks DREW with Jason Gavern.

    Lucas Browne knocked Gavern out in round 3 and Wilder knocked Gavern out in round 4. Michael Sprott beat Gavern. Anthony Joshua destroyed Sprott in one round.

    So why is Banks better than them? And how does Tarver's win make him a top ten heavyweight?
    Ok, I never noticed Tarver has gone to 7! That is daft. Top 30 maybe top 20. They must have used points from his light heavy career. Theres no way he should be higher than Cunningham thats for sure.

    Maybe I stand corrected but it would also be a fact if Browne were to face Hammer that would be his best opponent by a mile and Hammer would stand every chance of winning.
    Im not sure there is much between Rudenko and Hammer to be honest. Even a shit old Toney would have a good chance of beating Hammer if in a neutral venue.

    Its an easy fight for Fury but its a lot better then I was expecting. He has earned his mandatory position. Why take a bigger risk then necessary to lose it?

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Boxrec are the fairest. Its a scoring system. Its not a sanctioning body or magazine with influence that make money.

    As for height, Tysons 6th opponent Scott Belshaw is 6.7" Tyson fought him when Scott only had one loss and on points, he had a record of 10.1.0.
    Boxrec is demonstratably among the worst. It artificially constructs ratings to put the most popular boxers at the top obviously through a scoring system that does not make any sense at all.

    Have you actually read the rules that Boxrec applies?

    Browne is obviously a more dangerous and much better opponent than Hammer you fool!

    Fury is not ALLOWED to fight Browne for that reason!

    The IBO might be a sanctioning body but it's entire purpose was designed to specify who the REAL champion is as opposed to the corruption of the major bodies. Since atleast one of the champs of the major 4 are the REAL champ, for this reason the IBO belt is normally always tied up with a major belt also.
    No wonder everyone thinks you're a prick. You know fuck all.

    Show me what makes Browne more dangerous than Hammer

    Hughie Fury is going to piss on your chips. Tyson Furys little cousin and sparring partner is going to beat Brownes best opponent much easier than Browne managed.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Boxrec are the fairest. Its a scoring system. Its not a sanctioning body or magazine with influence that make money.

    As for height, Tysons 6th opponent Scott Belshaw is 6.7" Tyson fought him when Scott only had one loss and on points, he had a record of 10.1.0.
    How is Chavez Jr the number 2 168 fighter in the world after only having 1 fight at the weight against a low ranked middleweight who had never fought at super middle before? Seems perfectly fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Boxrec are the fairest. Its a scoring system. Its not a sanctioning body or magazine with influence that make money.

    As for height, Tysons 6th opponent Scott Belshaw is 6.7" Tyson fought him when Scott only had one loss and on points, he had a record of 10.1.0.
    Wow, 10 fights against guys with shockingly poor records and he's been knocked out in all but one of his 6 fights (losses) since. Fury must have RUINED him



    I take it back, Fury is proven against high calibre tall heavies, bring on Wlad










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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    ...and his one loss was against a 6 foot nothing cruiserweight


    The word 'moot' comes to mind.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Nascieamento was 6.5" and undefeated and unknown, 10 kos from 13 wins.

    Firtha was 6.5" and coming off taking the great Povetkin the distance.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Nascieamento was 6.5" and undefeated and unknown, unproven, unimportant 10 kos from 13 wins.

    Firtha was 6.5" and coming off taking the great Povetkin the distance.and 8 career defeats
    Creme de la creme...

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury to fight Christian Hamer

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Nascieamento was 6.5" and undefeated and unknown, unproven, unimportant 10 kos from 13 wins.

    Firtha was 6.5" and coming off taking the great Povetkin the distance.and 8 career defeats
    Creme de la creme...
    Thats a dangerous fight for a rising fighter.

    Its not a known quantity. An old name that everyone knows what they are going to get from. He was undefeated, no one knew who he was and is a puncher.

    Again. Think like a manager. Putting undefeated, big, unknown punchers against your fighter is dangerous. Ask Warren about when he put Khan in with Prescott

    Tyson fought Nasciemento in his 14th fight. Who did Wlad fight in his 14th fight and what was their record like? In fact, same goes for Stiverne and Wilder!
    Last edited by ross; 01-03-2015 at 02:42 AM.

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