Reverse Engineering Archie Moore and his "Lock" System

[SugarBoxing]

About swings, what do you think of the way a lot of the cubans and eastern europeans are hooking? They throw some very long hooks, but the way they sit down and turn their fist over lets them hit with the right part of the hand, plus this type of hook is great for coming around a guard or shoulder.



Fucks your thumb up if you mess up though, especially if your gloves don't let you position the thumb properly.

This is the corck-screw hook

[jms]

About swings, what do you think of the way a lot of the cubans and eastern europeans are hooking? They throw some very long hooks, but the way they sit down and turn their fist over lets them hit with the right part of the hand, plus this type of hook is great for coming around a guard or shoulder.



Fucks your thumb up if you mess up though, especially if your gloves don't let you position the thumb properly.

This is the corck-screw hook

I've heard it called a million things--corkscrew hook, russian long hook, cuban hook, casting punch, swing, overhand left, etc. What I know is it's a favorite among the commies, and it's the way I was taught to throw a left hook that needs to come around a guard or shoulder. My coach doesn't have any special name for it, it's just a left hook after all.

[greynotsoold]

I'd like to see his feet in that clip because it doesn't seem to me that there should be a lot on that punch, though he placed it about perfect. It seems the power was in the step because he certainly didn't get his weight turned on it.
When I was in Phoenix, one of the guys that I worked with teaching secretaries how to box used to teach that and it drove me nuts. He said it was an amateur boxing scoring thing, to make it clear that the white part of the glove was landing.

[jms]

I'd like to see his feet in that clip because it doesn't seem to me that there should be a lot on that punch, though he placed it about perfect. It seems the power was in the step because he certainly didn't get his weight turned on it.
When I was in Phoenix, one of the guys that I worked with teaching secretaries how to box used to teach that and it drove me nuts. He said it was an amateur boxing scoring thing, to make it clear that the white part of the glove was landing.

The mechanics are strange, like halfway between a jab and a hook. He starts with shoulders square and weight forward, then pushes off his left foot to get his weight moving back. As it moves back he steps with his lead foot. The beauty is that he steps the front foot, sits down on his back foot, finishes turning his shoulders and lands the punch all at the same time. Interesting enough, the main event of the most recent UFC card ended the same way:



Not nearly the same level of technique (especially the other guy's defense), but still a well executed 1-3 coming forward.