Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

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" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

[El Kabong]

Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

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Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

So other than Lewis who pushed Vitali the hardest then?

See if you cant come up with a third 11 year olds come back

[El Kabong]

Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

So other than Lewis who pushed Vitali the hardest then?

See if you cant come up with a third 11 year olds come back

Point of clarification, Tyson Fury won't be fighting Vitali as Vitali is retired. So the crux of your argument, the very foundation upon which you hope to build some semblance of a coherent thought is flawed, no good, erroneous.

However, IF I was to accept your premise then here are my answer: Corrie Sanders. Corrie came to fight, he didn't back down to Vitali he just didn't have the firepower to do anything to Vitali. Other than that Chris Byrd, who indeed got lucky with Vitali picking up an injury, but Byrd was brave enough to take the fight, stay in harms way, and eventually come out the winner.

As for Dereck Chisora, sure he lasted with Vitali, but Vitali had re-injured his arm in the 3rd round and so Vitali battered Del Boy for 12 rounds, pitched close to a shutout, with 1 arm......1.

Now, would you like to debate Tyson Fury's fighting chances vs Wladimir whom Tyson may actually fight?

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Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

So other than Lewis who pushed Vitali the hardest then?

See if you cant come up with a third 11 year olds come back

Point of clarification, Tyson Fury won't be fighting Vitali as Vitali is retired. So the crux of your argument, the very foundation upon which you hope to build some semblance of a coherent thought is flawed, no good, erroneous.

However, IF I was to accept your premise then here are my answer: Corrie Sanders. Corrie came to fight, he didn't back down to Vitali he just didn't have the firepower to do anything to Vitali. Other than that Chris Byrd, who indeed got lucky with Vitali picking up an injury, but Byrd was brave enough to take the fight, stay in harms way, and eventually come out the winner.

As for Dereck Chisora, sure he lasted with Vitali, but Vitali had re-injured his arm in the 3rd round and so Vitali battered Del Boy for 12 rounds, pitched close to a shutout, with 1 arm......1.

Now, would you like to debate Tyson Fury's fighting chances vs Wladimir whom Tyson may actually fight?

What was the scoring at the end of 12 rounds with Sanders?

Also, ok who was Wlads most dangerous opponent?

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I see you all hiding down there

[AdamGB]

Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

Stretch was exactly what I was thinking... My opinion on Fury aside, lets follow this logic using nothing but performances (and in the case of Wlad-Vitali, Wlad's admission that Vitali could beat him)

> donates greater than, = donates equal or close to, < donates lesser than
Following Ross' 'logic':

Chisora = Vitali > Wlad

So:

Fury > Chisora > Wlad

Only problem is:

Haye > Chisora, but if Chisora = Vitali > Wlad, why did Haye < Wlad?

and if Haye > Chisora x 4 (he beat Chisora in a quarter of the time Fury did), that places him above Fury if we follow your logic.

Haye > Fury > Chisora = Vitali > Wlad (not sure where to fit Lewis in all this, your logic got too convoluted to attempt to follow by that point). The guy at the bottom of that huge stretch you made somehow shutout the guy at the top, so I think we'll agree that using Dereck fucking Chisora as some sort of benchmark test for heavyweights from 2000-2015 is fucking ridiculous thing to do?...

Surely you're not stupid enough not to recognise the stage that Lewis was at in his career when he fought Vitali, the stage on his career Vitali was at when he fought Lewis and the stage he was at when he fought Chisora and realise that the stages between the three are so wide that drawing anything thing from it is impossible?

Not to much that Vitali scored a clear win on the cards over Chisora, he just had to work a little bit more than if they'd fought 3-4 years or more ago. A young Vitali had Lewis in a competitive dog fight.

Not to mention that fighter A beating fighter B and then fighter C beating fighter A doesn't mean that C beats B? Just look at Ali, Frazier and Foreman's round robin to see how flawed that logic has been proven to be...

You have to be posting stupid shit for a reaction at this point Ross?

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Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

Stretch was exactly what I was thinking... My opinion on Fury aside, lets follow this logic using nothing but performances (and in the case of Wlad-Vitali, Wlad's admission that Vitali could beat him)

> donates greater than, = donates equal or close to, < donates lesser than
Following Ross' 'logic':

Chisora = Vitali > Wlad

So:

Fury > Chisora > Wlad

Only problem is:

Haye > Chisora, but if Chisora = Vitali > Wlad, why did Haye < Wlad?

and if Haye > Chisora x 4 (he beat Chisora in a quarter of the time Fury did), that places him above Fury if we follow your logic.

Haye > Fury > Chisora = Vitali > Wlad (not sure where to fit Lewis in all this, your logic got too convoluted to attempt to follow by that point). The guy at the bottom of that huge stretch you made somehow shutout the guy at the top, so I think we'll agree that using Dereck fucking Chisora as some sort of benchmark test for heavyweights from 2000-2015 is fucking ridiculous thing to do?...

Surely you're not stupid enough not to recognise the stage that Lewis was at in his career when he fought Vitali, the stage on his career Vitali was at when he fought Lewis and the stage he was at when he fought Chisora and realise that the stages between the three are so wide that drawing anything thing from it is impossible?

Not to much that Vitali scored a clear win on the cards over Chisora, he just had to work a little bit more than if they'd fought 3-4 years or more ago. A young Vitali had Lewis in a competitive dog fight.

Not to mention that fighter A beating fighter B and then fighter C beating fighter A doesn't mean that C beats B? Just look at Ali, Frazier and Foreman's round robin to see how flawed that logic has been proven to be...

You have to be posting stupid shit for a reaction at this point Ross?

A young. Vitali had a very old Lewis in a hard fight.

Im posting the truth. You dont like it.

Me posting the truth about Tyson Fury in this forum is like dripping blood in front of a school of Sharks.

Its going to be hilarious watching you all eat crow. Or rather the silence. Be like an old western with a tumble weed rolling past where you PM Primo Carnera asking "what just happened"?

[AdamGB]

Firstly, that's a rather pathetic/weird little fantasy.
Secondly I already said that Vitali was young and Lewis was old. You're countering my points by regurgitating something that I said myself to me?
Thirdly, I just followed your stretched logic regarding Lewis/Wlad/Vitali/Fury and illustrated how David Haye's loss to Wlad and annihilation of Chisora made the wheels fall off the whole thing and your only refutal was to re-say something I'd said back to me as it it disproved something?

How many drinks have you had this evening?

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Haha! Love it!

I post on a thread chatting about Fury and then see all the usual suspects turn up like fishys in a net! See their names at the bottom like Fury perverts.....

Comical!

[Primo Carnera]

" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

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" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

Haye certainly didnt think so

Maybe you should have had a word in his ear and to,d him not to worry he'll be fine

[Primo Carnera]

" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

Haye certainly didnt think so

Maybe you should have had a word in his ear and to,d him not to worry he'll be fine

What do you mean here? Oh Yeah, "in your opinion", Haye Ducked Fury. Despite the fact that he had an operation and has never fought since and not earned a penny since, it was all a bit of a fake injury ...... IN YOUR OPINION.
Funny, you don't reply to the FACT that Fury ducked Price? I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that.
For that matter, didn't Fury duck Pulev in order to fight Haye? Again, thoughts please.
So that's a British title shot and a World title eliminator that Fury has swerved. These are FACTS NOT OPINIONS.
Pulev has since deservedly got his shot. Now, you can summise that Fury is better than Pulev and will give Wlad a better fight, but there comes a time when talk becomes worthless and you have to "walk the walk."
I re-iterate, Fury has never beaten anyone that makes anyone bar you logically think he can beat a guy who hasn't even looked like getting beat recently.

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" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

Haye certainly didnt think so

Maybe you should have had a word in his ear and to,d him not to worry he'll be fine

What do you mean here? Oh Yeah, "in your opinion", Haye Ducked Fury. Despite the fact that he had an operation and has never fought since and not earned a penny since, it was all a bit of a fake injury ...... IN YOUR OPINION.
Funny, you don't reply to the FACT that Fury ducked Price? I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that.
For that matter, didn't Fury duck Pulev in order to fight Haye? Again, thoughts please.
So that's a British title shot and a World title eliminator that Fury has swerved. These are FACTS NOT OPINIONS.
Pulev has since deservedly got his shot. Now, you can summise that Fury is better than Pulev and will give Wlad a better fight, but there comes a time when talk becomes worthless and you have to "walk the walk."
I re-iterate, Fury has never beaten anyone that makes anyone bar you logically think he can beat a guy who hasn't even looked like getting beat recently.

Like I said, its going to be hilarious when Tyson Fury brings your (in your mind) boxing world crumbling down.

Stop writing essays. I an write a couple of sentences and they get a far bigger response than any boring essay any of you can write.

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

[Primo Carnera]

" but you are still scraping the barrel to try and desperately find something to criticise Fury over"
Ha ha. Trust me Ross , I don't have to scrape the barrel to try to criticise Fury, there are many many things to criticise.

Let's start with:
1. For a guy his size, he has no power.
2. He's a show pony. Flatters to deceive.
3. He's never beaten a HW of any quality.
4. He chose to swerve a British title fight with David Price and opted to fight a 40 year old part time taxi driver for the "Irish title" instead. that was despite going on national TV and telling everyone "it would take 10 plumbers to sort Price's face out when he's finished with him."
5. And in the same interview on national TV , he said he would sort out his "gay lover" Tony Bellew on the same night . (Actually , that's not a criticism, I thought it was fuckin hilarious!)
6. I've already said he is unprofessional.
7. He's disrespectful of the top 2 P4P boxers on the planet by saying he would knock them both out on the same night! He's a fuckin foot taller and 10 stone heavier than both of them, he should knock them out FFS. But in the real world, he wouldn't lay a glove on either of them.
8. He took 10 rounds to get rid of a shop worn Chisora who wasn't capable of throwing a meaningful punch .
This is from someone who actually LIKES Tyson Fury. That is 1 fucking big barrel. And there's probably much more if I concentrated.

And he's still better than anyone Wlad has faced.

Well that's an opinion ! Not an opinion I share. I think loads of guys Wlad beat would beat Fury.

Ok...

Wlad has said himself what everyone else thinks that his brother would kick his ass.

Other than Lewis who gave Vitali his hardest fight? Oh yeah Chisora! The same Chisora Fury played with twice!

Chisora was brave against Vitali to be fair, but he lost every fucking round! If that was Vitali's toughest fight, he should've carried on till he's 70!
And by your reckoning, because Chisora gave Vitali a "good go" and Tyson played with him, Tyson beats Wlad?
Ok, let's use that theory , Haye beat Chisora better than Vitali AND Fury, so does that not mean Haye fuckin splatters Fury? Just using your logic here.

Haye certainly didnt think so

Maybe you should have had a word in his ear and to,d him not to worry he'll be fine

What do you mean here? Oh Yeah, "in your opinion", Haye Ducked Fury. Despite the fact that he had an operation and has never fought since and not earned a penny since, it was all a bit of a fake injury ...... IN YOUR OPINION.
Funny, you don't reply to the FACT that Fury ducked Price? I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that.
For that matter, didn't Fury duck Pulev in order to fight Haye? Again, thoughts please.
So that's a British title shot and a World title eliminator that Fury has swerved. These are FACTS NOT OPINIONS.
Pulev has since deservedly got his shot. Now, you can summise that Fury is better than Pulev and will give Wlad a better fight, but there comes a time when talk becomes worthless and you have to "walk the walk."
I re-iterate, Fury has never beaten anyone that makes anyone bar you logically think he can beat a guy who hasn't even looked like getting beat recently.

Like I said, its going to be hilarious when Tyson Fury brings your (in your mind) boxing world crumbling down.

Stop writing essays. I an write a couple of sentences and they get a far bigger response than any boring essay any of you can write.

The funniest thing is I'm the only one who's had any official capacity in boxing here. Doesn't given me Devine rights but still funny when I read some of the crap dribbled on here.

Ok , if it offends you, I'll keep it brief.
Your Comments about Fury ducking Price and Pulev please.
Ps.your"bigger response" is because nobody can believe the shite you are talking.