Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

[El Kabong]

Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

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Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

So other than Lewis who pushed Vitali the hardest then?

See if you cant come up with a third 11 year olds come back

[El Kabong]

Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

So other than Lewis who pushed Vitali the hardest then?

See if you cant come up with a third 11 year olds come back

Point of clarification, Tyson Fury won't be fighting Vitali as Vitali is retired. So the crux of your argument, the very foundation upon which you hope to build some semblance of a coherent thought is flawed, no good, erroneous.

However, IF I was to accept your premise then here are my answer: Corrie Sanders. Corrie came to fight, he didn't back down to Vitali he just didn't have the firepower to do anything to Vitali. Other than that Chris Byrd, who indeed got lucky with Vitali picking up an injury, but Byrd was brave enough to take the fight, stay in harms way, and eventually come out the winner.

As for Dereck Chisora, sure he lasted with Vitali, but Vitali had re-injured his arm in the 3rd round and so Vitali battered Del Boy for 12 rounds, pitched close to a shutout, with 1 arm......1.

Now, would you like to debate Tyson Fury's fighting chances vs Wladimir whom Tyson may actually fight?

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Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

So other than Lewis who pushed Vitali the hardest then?

See if you cant come up with a third 11 year olds come back

Point of clarification, Tyson Fury won't be fighting Vitali as Vitali is retired. So the crux of your argument, the very foundation upon which you hope to build some semblance of a coherent thought is flawed, no good, erroneous.

However, IF I was to accept your premise then here are my answer: Corrie Sanders. Corrie came to fight, he didn't back down to Vitali he just didn't have the firepower to do anything to Vitali. Other than that Chris Byrd, who indeed got lucky with Vitali picking up an injury, but Byrd was brave enough to take the fight, stay in harms way, and eventually come out the winner.

As for Dereck Chisora, sure he lasted with Vitali, but Vitali had re-injured his arm in the 3rd round and so Vitali battered Del Boy for 12 rounds, pitched close to a shutout, with 1 arm......1.

Now, would you like to debate Tyson Fury's fighting chances vs Wladimir whom Tyson may actually fight?

What was the scoring at the end of 12 rounds with Sanders?

Also, ok who was Wlads most dangerous opponent?

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I see you all hiding down there

[AdamGB]

Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

Stretch was exactly what I was thinking... My opinion on Fury aside, lets follow this logic using nothing but performances (and in the case of Wlad-Vitali, Wlad's admission that Vitali could beat him)

> donates greater than, = donates equal or close to, < donates lesser than
Following Ross' 'logic':

Chisora = Vitali > Wlad

So:

Fury > Chisora > Wlad

Only problem is:

Haye > Chisora, but if Chisora = Vitali > Wlad, why did Haye < Wlad?

and if Haye > Chisora x 4 (he beat Chisora in a quarter of the time Fury did), that places him above Fury if we follow your logic.

Haye > Fury > Chisora = Vitali > Wlad (not sure where to fit Lewis in all this, your logic got too convoluted to attempt to follow by that point). The guy at the bottom of that huge stretch you made somehow shutout the guy at the top, so I think we'll agree that using Dereck fucking Chisora as some sort of benchmark test for heavyweights from 2000-2015 is fucking ridiculous thing to do?...

Surely you're not stupid enough not to recognise the stage that Lewis was at in his career when he fought Vitali, the stage on his career Vitali was at when he fought Lewis and the stage he was at when he fought Chisora and realise that the stages between the three are so wide that drawing anything thing from it is impossible?

Not to much that Vitali scored a clear win on the cards over Chisora, he just had to work a little bit more than if they'd fought 3-4 years or more ago. A young Vitali had Lewis in a competitive dog fight.

Not to mention that fighter A beating fighter B and then fighter C beating fighter A doesn't mean that C beats B? Just look at Ali, Frazier and Foreman's round robin to see how flawed that logic has been proven to be...

You have to be posting stupid shit for a reaction at this point Ross?

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Wow.....ok there Stretch Armstrong, don't hurt yourself

Stretch was exactly what I was thinking... My opinion on Fury aside, lets follow this logic using nothing but performances (and in the case of Wlad-Vitali, Wlad's admission that Vitali could beat him)

> donates greater than, = donates equal or close to, < donates lesser than
Following Ross' 'logic':

Chisora = Vitali > Wlad

So:

Fury > Chisora > Wlad

Only problem is:

Haye > Chisora, but if Chisora = Vitali > Wlad, why did Haye < Wlad?

and if Haye > Chisora x 4 (he beat Chisora in a quarter of the time Fury did), that places him above Fury if we follow your logic.

Haye > Fury > Chisora = Vitali > Wlad (not sure where to fit Lewis in all this, your logic got too convoluted to attempt to follow by that point). The guy at the bottom of that huge stretch you made somehow shutout the guy at the top, so I think we'll agree that using Dereck fucking Chisora as some sort of benchmark test for heavyweights from 2000-2015 is fucking ridiculous thing to do?...

Surely you're not stupid enough not to recognise the stage that Lewis was at in his career when he fought Vitali, the stage on his career Vitali was at when he fought Lewis and the stage he was at when he fought Chisora and realise that the stages between the three are so wide that drawing anything thing from it is impossible?

Not to much that Vitali scored a clear win on the cards over Chisora, he just had to work a little bit more than if they'd fought 3-4 years or more ago. A young Vitali had Lewis in a competitive dog fight.

Not to mention that fighter A beating fighter B and then fighter C beating fighter A doesn't mean that C beats B? Just look at Ali, Frazier and Foreman's round robin to see how flawed that logic has been proven to be...

You have to be posting stupid shit for a reaction at this point Ross?

A young. Vitali had a very old Lewis in a hard fight.

Im posting the truth. You dont like it.

Me posting the truth about Tyson Fury in this forum is like dripping blood in front of a school of Sharks.

Its going to be hilarious watching you all eat crow. Or rather the silence. Be like an old western with a tumble weed rolling past where you PM Primo Carnera asking "what just happened"?

[AdamGB]

Firstly, that's a rather pathetic/weird little fantasy.
Secondly I already said that Vitali was young and Lewis was old. You're countering my points by regurgitating something that I said myself to me?
Thirdly, I just followed your stretched logic regarding Lewis/Wlad/Vitali/Fury and illustrated how David Haye's loss to Wlad and annihilation of Chisora made the wheels fall off the whole thing and your only refutal was to re-say something I'd said back to me as it it disproved something?

How many drinks have you had this evening?