Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 1 ~

Mildenberger starts off by circling to his right {counter-clockwise} and pecked away with
right-jabs from his southpaw-stance.

{0:12} > Howard Cosell > "Mildenberger is circling to his right, clockwise."
> Note > Karl Mildenberger was circling 'counter-clockwise'.

Bonavena was content to lay-back, and wait until Mildenberger initiated any exchanges.

A the {1:00 Mark}, Mildenberger was doing the scoring {pecking jabs} and Bonavena
had yet to throw a punch while both circled at Center-Ring.

At the {1:05 Mark}, Bonavena was starting to back-away, as Mildenberger tried a few left-hand
leads to the mid-section.

At the {1:28 Mark} Angelo Dundee makes the statement that > "Bonavena is fighting all wrong.
He's backing away, and not coming in."

Howard Cosell > "Bonavena may be suckering him in."

At the {2:10 Mark}, both fighters get into a good exchange at the left-side of Center-Ring.

{2:17} > Mildenberger attacks, and scores with a lead over-hand left to Oscar's head.

At the {2:18 Mark}, Bonavena counters Mildenberger with a hard left-hook to the jaw, and
then a follow up 'quick' left-hook to the head.

Mildenberger goes down on the 'seat-of-his-pants' at Center-Ring. Karl gets up at the '2-Count',
and takes the 'Mandatory 8-Count' from American Referee - Harry Krause.

Howard Cosell > "Oscar suckered him in."

The Referee has a hard time picking up the count from the Time-Keeper at Ringside, and
Karl gets a 'break', as the count does not end until the {2:36 Mark}. Which was a full {17-Seconds}.

When the action resumed at the {2:38 Mark}, Bonavena steadily moved in, and then drove the
backwards moving Mildenberger into the front-left Corner, where Oscar slammed in a few hard
punches over the next 5-Seconds.

Karl clinched, and then circled away out to Center-Ring at the {2:46 Mark}.

{2:48 Mark} Howard Cosell > "Mildenberger is hurt."
> Note > Howard was 'over-zealous' in his remark, as usual. As Karl was not hurt.

{2:53} > Mildenberger steps in, and exchanges with Oscar at the back-right Ring area.

Bell at {3:00}.

Round 1........ {5-4} Oscar Bonavena

The knockdown was more for a 'flash-knockdown', and Mildenberger was not really hurt.

~ Advantage ~

Karl Mildenberger was fighting in his home country of Germany, with { 18,000 } fans supporting him.

~ Advantage ~

The Ring Size was 16' 6" x 16' 6", which was the advantage for the brawler/slugger Oscar Bonavena.

The Boxing Gloves were {6 Ounce}, which are 'puncher gloves', which was an advantage for Oscar.

[brocktonblockbust]

OCD Karl Mildenberger marathon Thread, 2,500 hits and still going..............

[Bill Paxtom]

OCD Karl Mildenberger marathon Thread, 2,500 hits and still going..............

Thanks 'Triple B'

Fight Facts >

Angelo Dundee scored Round 1 ...... {5-3} for Oscar Bonavena

Oscar floored Karl Mildenberger with the 'first' 2 punches he landed in Round 1.

Cassius Clay, needed nearly '5' full Rounds to drop the 'chinny' Karl.

A testament, that Cassius was a 'true' fraud of a puncher.

[Master]

Triple B was not complementing you.

[brocktonblockbust]

Triple B was not complementing you.

Now, now, Master; 2,500 hits and still going is certainly............interesting .......

[Bill Paxtom]

~ I Am The Brewmaster ~

~ Round 2 ~

Karl Mildenberger showed no effects from the Knockdown in Round 1, and easily circled to
his right {counter-clockwise} and peppered Oscar with right-jabs over the first 30-Seconds.

Oscar made a charge at the {0:30 Mark}, and hammered Karl with a 'right-left' to the head,
driving Karl to the back left Ropes.

Oscar added in '2 hard left-hooks to the head at the {0:36 Mark}, and Karl looked shaken up.

But Karl cleared out, and came back with '2' fast left-hand leads to Oscar's face at the {0:43 Mark}.

Karl then came right back with a sharp 'right-left' to the head, and had Oscar backing-and-bobbing.

The fighters clinched at the {0:48 Mark}.

By the {1:05 Mark}, Oscar was back taking the lead as he pressed.

{1:10} Oscar lands a left-hook above Karl's right-eye.

At the {1:18 Mark}, Karl was showing a cut over his right-eye.

At the {1:43 Mark}, Oscar stepped in and delivered a solid '4-Punch' combination that rocked Karl
backwards.

Angelo Dundee makes the statement >
"Oscar is a converted southpaw, that is why he has a hard left-hook."

1:47> The fighters clinch at Center-Ring.

1:52 > Karl gets off with '5' fast right-jabs at Center-Ring as he circles.
The { 18,000 } fans at the 'Radrennbahn Outdoor Stadium' erupt with cheers, and applaud Karl's offensive attack.

2:02 > Oscar gets in close, and lands with a 'left-right-left-left'.

2:05 > Karl counters with a 'jarring' left-hand lead to Oscar's chin.

2:07 > Karl steps forward to throw another left-hand lead, but slips to the floor.
The Referee - rules 'no knockdown'.

2:35 > Oscar now looks both 'slow-and-awkward' as he plods forward.

2:38 > Karl is back to moving and circling to his right.

2:41 > Karl scores with a solid 'left-hand' lead to the head.

2:48 > Karl goes back to circling to his right until the Bell.

3:00 > Bell

Round 2 .............. 'Even' {5-5}

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 3 ~

0:10 > Karl comes out quickly, and immediately starts pecking away with his right-jab.
0:12 > Karl continues to move and circle to his right.

0:15 > Oscar is looking to counter.
0:26 > Karl scores with a good 'right-left'.

0:30 > Both fighters are Center-Ring.
0:32 > Oscar counters with hard left-hook.

0:45 > Oscar is showing a good defense.
1:00 > Karl is still poking away with right-jabs.

1:02 > The Argentinian contingent of { 200 supporters } is chanting "Ringo, Ringo".
1:06 > Oscar makes a charge, and slams away with '3' hard-punches.

1:08 > Karl backs up to the back-left Ropes, and slips while ducking under Oscar's punches.
1:10 > Oscar tries to clobber Karl while he's bending down.

1:14 > Referee - Harry Krause warns Oscar for hitting while hos opponent was down.
1:20 > The Referee continues to admonish Oscar.

1:24 > The action resumes.
1:28 > Karl goes back to pecking away with right-jabs.

1:43 > Oscar makes a 'bull-rush', and slams away with '3' hard hooks.
1:50 > Karl still pecks away with right-jabs while at Center-Ring.

2:03 > Oscar makes another charge, and scores with a good 'right-left' to the head.
2:05 > Karl looks 'rattled' as he backs up into the left-side Ropes.

2:18 > Karl scores with a terrific left-hand lead to Oscar's chin.
2:22 > Oscar makes a late-charger by firing in with a hard 'right-left-right-left'.

2:30 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring, and paw with jabs.
2:44 > Karl scores with another good left-hand lead, and sharp right-jab to Oscar's face.

2:46 > Karl tags Oscar with big left-hook to the jaw.
2:48 > Oscar retaliates with a fast 'right-left-right-left', but all his punches miss.

2:54 > Karl adds in a few light pecking right-jabs.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Rounds 3 ......... {5-5} 'Even'

Angelo Dundee's Scorecard
Round 1 ............. 5-3 > Oscar Bonavena
Round 2 ............. 5-5 > 'Even'
Round 3 ............. 5-4 > Oscar Bonavena

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Karl Mildenberger vs. Oscar Bonavena ~

~ Round 4 ~

0:05 > Karl is back to jabbing with his right-hand and circling to his right.
0:18 > Oscar is looking to counter.

0:25 > Oscar has been backing away.
0:54 > Karl has been leading with right-jabs, and Oscar looks 'baffled' now.

1:04 > Karl continues to move to his right, and circles at Center-Ring.
1:10 > Karls gets off with '2' good right-hands to Oscar's face.

1:16 > Oscar attacks 'wildly', and misses with all '4' punches.
1:18 > The fighters clinch.

1:20 > Howard Cosell > "Oscar is both clumsy and graceless. But he is effective when he lands."

1:26 > Karl backs up to the left-side Ropes.
1:31 > Karl moves to Center-Ring, and lands with a good straight left-hand lead.

1:33 > Karl fires in with a fast 'right-left-right-left'.
1:36 > Oscar tries to counter, but he is missing.

1:39 > Karl lands again, with a 'double right-jab.
1:42 > Oscar is waiting too long to counter.

1:48 > Oscar gets off with a grazing 'right-left'.
1:50 > Karl backs up to the front Ropes.

1:54 > Karl moves away, and backs out to Center-Ring.
1:58 > Karl goes back to jabbing.

2:01 > Karl stays aggressive, and keeps Oscar outside.
2:04 > Oscar is looking to counter.

2:13 > Karl scores with a 'sharp' right-left at Center-Ring, and the punches snap Oscar's head back.
2:25 > Oscar lands a good right-hand to Karl's ribs.

2:26 > Karl clinches.
2:32 > The fighters are now mauling at Center-Ring.

2:40 > Oscar lands another good right-hand to the body.
2:41 > The fighters clinch.

2:44 > Karl lands with '2' good right-jabs.
2:46 > Karl steps back to the front-left Ring area.

2:47 > Howard Cosell > "This is Mildenberger's best Round so far."

2:48 > Oscar moves forward, and loads up.
2:49 > Oscar slams a left-hook behind Karl's neck.

2:50 > Oscar lands with hard left-hook onto Karl's right-shoulder area.
2:50 > Karl is now with his back on the front-left Ropes.

2:51 > Karl is now off-balance.
2:51 > Oscar fires another big left-hook and catches Karl high on the head.

2:52 > Karl goes 'down', and falls into the front-left Ropes.
2:54 > Karl is up at the '1-Count'.

2:55 > The Referee - Harry Krause issues the 'Mandatory 8-Count'.
3:03 > 'Bell'

Round 4 ........... {5-4 } > Oscar Bonavena
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Angelo Dundee >

"I scored it for Oscar {5-4}. Even though he scored the 'flash-knockdown', Karl had the Round won
up until the last few seconds."

"Oscar is rough when he gets in close. He's getting away with a few clubbing-punches behind the head."

"Mildenberger's corner is complaining to Referee - Harry Krause about the 'knockdown'. They're saying
that Karl was hit behind the head {neck area}. I agree with them on that."

[brocktonblockbust]

why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

[Master]

why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

Because Bill made it up that is how.

In Bill's world Ali never became the great fighter he became.

[Dia bando]

Hell is this thread still going, you think he would be all Mildenberger out by now shit.

[TitoFan]

I think it's pretty clear by now. Either....

a) Billy IS Mildenberger (in which case he's pretty damn old and holds a grudge against Ali).

b) Billy had a man crush on Mildenberger (and was more than just a little miffed when he lost to Ali).

c) Billy was Mildenberger's slut (in which case he'd still be pretty peeved at Ali knocking out his man).

d) Billy is mentally and emotionally disturbed (regardless of a, b, or c..... d is likely true also).

[brocktonblockbust]

I think it's pretty clear by now. Either....

a) Billy IS Mildenberger (in which case he's pretty damn old and holds a grudge against Ali).

b) Billy had a man crush on Mildenberger (and was more than just a little miffed when he lost to Ali).

c) Billy was Mildenberger's slut (in which case he'd still be pretty peeved at Ali knocking out his man).

d) Billy is mentally and emotionally disturbed (regardless of a, b, or c..... d is likely true also).

OR,

e) Billy is a literal WHIRLWIND of boxing stats, details, info, nostalgia, memorabilia, hype and ..........


f) all of the above (in my part of the post)


g) Master feels feverishly flummoxed about Quixotic Qassius Qlay Quotes

[TitoFan]

Billy's a nut job, Brock. Don't be fooled by dates, "supposed" quotes, and made-up stories. The guy's a certified whack job, the type you later read about in the newspapers when they commit some heinous act.

I think it's pretty clear by now. Either....

a) Billy IS Mildenberger (in which case he's pretty damn old and holds a grudge against Ali).

b) Billy had a man crush on Mildenberger (and was more than just a little miffed when he lost to Ali).

c) Billy was Mildenberger's slut (in which case he'd still be pretty peeved at Ali knocking out his man).

d) Billy is mentally and emotionally disturbed (regardless of a, b, or c..... d is likely true also).

OR,

e) Billy is a literal WHIRLWIND of boxing stats, details, info, nostalgia, memorabilia, hype and ..........
He's a WHIRLWIND, alright. A whirlwind of fantasy, hatred, lies, fabrication, inferiority complexes, etc. He makes 90% of his shit up, Brock.


f) all of the above (in my part of the post)


g) Master feels feverishly flummoxed about Quixotic Qassius Qlay Quotes
I think it's more of a case of Billy being Fixated on False Fabricated Fantasies Fueled by Fury Forged by Former Failures and a Fragility of a F*cked-up Formation

[Bill Paxtom]

why would Dundee agree about that, Bill? Cassius "The Cheat" Ali used to grab behind the neck and push down on the head. Dundee is a hypocrite and Clay-Ass-Licker

Triple B,

Angelo knew that Cassius could get away with that stuff, because the 'liberal press' was
fearful of calling Cassius a cheat.

If you disagreed or called Cassius out on something, you immediately got labeled a 'racist'.

Take Angelo away from Cassius, and he was a pretty good boxing analysis.