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    Default Re: Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen

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    Floyd is not TBE and he is far from entertaining. He is past his best and its plain to see.

    Whitaker did what he has done and gone up in weight fighting better fighters.

    Stop the nonsense.
    Yea but Whitaker had a few off nights, floyds never had an off night and didn't Whitaker take so much punishment he's now blind in one eye ?
    Sweat pea was flawless and never had off nights in his prime which was lightweight. He was robbed and would have had a 0 but he had balls to take on Oscar, Tito and Vasquez.
    No he did have off nights he's got a few loses wether you think he won or not that's fact and don't start about being in his prime floyds a fair bit past his prime he's an old man in a young guys sport and he's still having shutouts against the up and coming superstars like canelo. Floyds achievements are way above Whitaker.
    I agree Floyd is past his prime which was at the lower weight. Floyd would have lost his 0 if he was fighting legitimate welterweights like Tito, Ike and Oscar.
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    Floyd is not TBE and he is far from entertaining. He is past his best and its plain to see.

    Whitaker did what he has done and gone up in weight fighting better fighters.

    Stop the nonsense.
    Yea but Whitaker had a few off nights, floyds never had an off night and didn't Whitaker take so much punishment he's now blind in one eye ?
    Sweat pea was flawless and never had off nights in his prime which was lightweight. He was robbed and would have had a 0 but he had balls to take on Oscar, Tito and Vasquez.
    No he did have off nights he's got a few loses wether you think he won or not that's fact and don't start about being in his prime floyds a fair bit past his prime he's an old man in a young guys sport and he's still having shutouts against the up and coming superstars like canelo. Floyds achievements are way above Whitaker.
    I agree Floyd is past his prime which was at the lower weight. Floyd would have lost his 0 if he was fighting legitimate welterweights like Tito, Ike and Oscar.
    No way he loses to any of them it's just my opinion but I honestly just don't see it.

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    Floyd is not TBE and he is far from entertaining. He is past his best and its plain to see.

    Whitaker did what he has done and gone up in weight fighting better fighters.

    Stop the nonsense.
    Yea but Whitaker had a few off nights, floyds never had an off night and didn't Whitaker take so much punishment he's now blind in one eye ?
    Sweat pea was flawless and never had off nights in his prime which was lightweight. He was robbed and would have had a 0 but he had balls to take on Oscar, Tito and Vasquez.
    No he did have off nights he's got a few loses wether you think he won or not that's fact and don't start about being in his prime floyds a fair bit past his prime he's an old man in a young guys sport and he's still having shutouts against the up and coming superstars like canelo. Floyds achievements are way above Whitaker.
    I agree Floyd is past his prime which was at the lower weight. Floyd would have lost his 0 if he was fighting legitimate welterweights like Tito, Ike and Oscar.
    No way he loses to any of them it's just my opinion but I honestly just don't see it.
    The reason why I say Floyd loses to those guys is because they are true welterweights not blown up ones coming from lower weights so I am not disrespecting Floyd the cunt.
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    Oscar I can see but not Ike or Tito.
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    Oscar I can see but not Ike or Tito.
    That is why I respect Oscar coming from the lower weight and fighting the cartel of champions who would not fight one another. He took them on and gave it a go!
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    Oscar was always up for making the big fights and taking on tough opponents.
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    Floyd has a perfect record, now had he fought some different fighters at different times would that 0 still be there? It's really up for debate. How would Floyd fair vs the all-time greats? That's up for debate as well as he didn't have many to fight in his era...he wasn't rivals with any of the big time players before him so who knows?

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    Floyd has a perfect record, now had he fought some different fighters at different times would that 0 still be there? It's really up for debate. How would Floyd fair vs the all-time greats? That's up for debate as well as he didn't have many to fight in his era...he wasn't rivals with any of the big time players before him so who knows?
    That's definitely true, you can do that with all athletes. How would Jordan have performed in the Celtic dynasty era, how would Ted Willaims do against today's pictures, bottom line is I think it's safe to say Floyd is the greatest of our generation.

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    Floyd has a perfect record, now had he fought some different fighters at different times would that 0 still be there? It's really up for debate. How would Floyd fair vs the all-time greats? That's up for debate as well as he didn't have many to fight in his era...he wasn't rivals with any of the big time players before him so who knows?
    That's definitely true, you can do that with all athletes. How would Jordan have performed in the Celtic dynasty era, how would Ted Willaims do against today's pictures, bottom line is I think it's safe to say Floyd is the greatest of our generation.
    Jordan did just fine vs the 80's Celtics....he dropped 63 on the 1986 Celtics IN Boston Garden IN the Playoffs. The 1986 Celtics were a BRILLIANT team.

    Ted Williams would ALWAYS hit well...he went to bat 186 times against Bob Feller and The Splendid Splinter had a .478 on base average against Feller, he hit .349 against Feller, with a homerun every 14.9 times at bat against Bob Feller. To that point Bob Feller vs everyone else: he held opponents to a .228 average, he got a strike out every 5.56 batters.

    How would Floyd do against the best of his era when they were at their best ?


    It was a question when Floyd started his career and he hasn't done a great deal to answer it. I suppose he'd do well, but for fucks sake he barely beat De la Hoya, he fought a worn down Mosley...he fought Deigo Corrales in his pomp and trashed him so there's that but is Corrales a great? Floyd fought Hatton outside Hatton's best weight, a weight where Hatton had SIGNIFICANT trouble vs Luis Collazo let alone a great like Floyd. The Miguel Cotto fight was a decent one....still extremely close, much closer than most want to admit although the championship rounds DID go for Floyd.


    Floyd is GREAT but when we start talking "How great" is when I start trying to actually figure it out in detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    How would Floyd do against the best of his era when they were at their best ?
    We'll never know because they didn't want to fight him in their primes. Mayweather called out DLH when Floyd was still at 130 and DLH was 154. He called out Mosley at 135 but Shane chose to jump up and fight DLH for the bigger money. What can you do?
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