Top 20 Fighters Since 1980

[erics44]

To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.

If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

youre just adding rules to the question

top 20 fighters thats it

not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape

Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also

fucks up with you?

[ElTerribleMorales]

To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.

If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

youre just adding rules to the question

top 20 fighters thats it

not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape

Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also

fucks up with you?

just agreeing with your ass

[erics44]

To be fair one of those guys was smaller too. You can't ignore that.

If you don't have the discipline to consistently stay in shape and keep your weight down at a point where you are most effective, that's a reflection of you as a fighter. When assessing a fighter, you have to take into account the entire package. I never seen Leonard, Hearns or Duran come in out of shape, or quit during a world title match because of tummy aches.

youre just adding rules to the question

top 20 fighters thats it

not the top 20 fighters considering their whole carear or top 20 fighters who were best at staying in shape

Exactly cause then you'd have to throw in Manny's constant need for an excuse (no matter how ridiculous, be it socks, gloves, shoulder, leg cramps, lucky punches, etc.) after every close fight or loss into account also

fucks up with you?

just agreeing with your ass

i have a fine ass

sounds like there was a bit of a whinge in your post mind you

[powerpuncher]

The OP said specifically from 1980 on so duran is low because his lightweight reign was before that.

[TitoFan]

These lists are sooo subjective.
IMO Trinidad had a better career and resume than DLH.
But he's not the crossover star DLH was, so he gets bumped.

Three losses his entire career, all to ATG's.....
He bumps a few people off that list, IMO.

[powerpuncher]

These lists are sooo subjective.
IMO Trinidad had a better career and resume than DLH.
But he's not the crossover star DLH was, so he gets bumped.

Three losses his entire career, all to ATG's.....
He bumps a few people off that list, IMO.

I've always thought that tito was overrated. He was good at what he did but had a major flaw against people who could box. And de la hoya easily beat him.

[Spicoli]

Top as in made the covers, sold the ppv and made millions? Or top as in a boxing fool who treated the ring like the study at home? A few did both, good list. Maybe I'm biased with favorites but with respect I'd bump Foreman, Mosley, Calzaghe, Wright, Duran and include JMM, Lopez, McCallum, Canizales and a Toney. Though frankly with Toney I preference everything now with "if".

[SugarBoxing]

Mosley... There is nothing good about him, he was always average, fought some bums

[TitoFan]

These lists are sooo subjective.
IMO Trinidad had a better career and resume than DLH.
But he's not the crossover star DLH was, so he gets bumped.

Three losses his entire career, all to ATG's.....
He bumps a few people off that list, IMO.

I've always thought that tito was overrated. He was good at what he did but had a major flaw against people who could box. And de la hoya easily beat him.

He lost all of 3 fights his entire career.

BHop - One of the best MW's of all time, who had been a middleweight his entire 13-year career to that point, with only a previous UD loss to RJJ marring his record. Future first-ballot HOF'er.

Winky Wright - One of the best defensive fighters of his era and another future HOF'er.

RJJ - An ATG and first-ballot HOF'er. This fight was at 170-lb, I believe, and Trinidad had no business going up that high. That didn't deter him, though. It was Trinidad's last fight.


Against people who could box? Oba Carr could box, but nobody gives him credit for it, since he lost to Trinidad.

The win over DLH was controversial, but DLH threw the fight away in the last 3-4 rounds while running all over the ring. He says he thought he had the fight won.... some of us say he had tasted some of Trinidad's leather and was in no mood to trade blows late in the fight. Regardless, the decision went against him in Las Vegas, supposed homefield advantage for DLH.

He polished off five undefeated fighters (Campas, Carr, DLH, Reid, Vargas).... three of them before DLH got up enough nerve to face those same damaged opponents. Overrated?? Kind of difficult to consider a 42-3-0 (35 KO's) fighter overrated, unless he faced a lineup of bums, which seems to be the norm for some fighters nowadays. No..... I respect your opinion, but I'll hold onto mine. Trinidad's resume is above DLH's any day of the week.

[Master]

Get fat hand picking George Foreman out of that list. Have some shame.

[Bill Paxtom]

"Just how long do I have to answer the questions to this test. I only have one bottle of Bourbon."

[Mr140]

How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.

[Master]

How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.

Going up 2 weights, if it was now is not easy even for the great Hagler. Also the big money fights were with smaller fighters.

B Hop and GGG know.

[Ron Swanson]

How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.

Spinks was one hell of a LHW. One of the very best ever. But no man whoops Haglers "fucking ass something awful".

[Bill Paxtom]

How the fuck is Micheal Spinks not on this list he was the undefeated lhw champ and won the hw belt only lost to Tyson. Holy shit i just wrote about the dude in another thread there a reason that Hagler stayed at mw because Spinks would of whooped his fucking ass something awful.

Spinks was one hell of a LHW. One of the very best ever. But no man whoops Haglers "fucking ass something awful".

May I say.

Willie 'The Worm' Monroe

Even Marvin Hagler stated that >

"Willie beat my ass in our '1st-Bout' in Philadelphia. He was the only man to beat me, in the
true sense."

"He made me eat his left-jabs all night long. And when I got close to him, 'Bam' came in his
right-hand into my jaw."
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"That is true. Marvin had 'Nowhere to Run" that night. Willie turned 'the worm' on him"

Martha and the Vandella's