He's not coming back: not after that performance

[fan johnny]

Pacquiao - no compelling reason to, however it all smells.
Kirkland & Quillen - I think we will see them again.

I do see all of them all beating many of the perceived top class. Kind of sounds like your pissed at the performances?

[SlimTrae]

Pacquiao - no compelling reason to, however it all smells.
Kirkland & Quillen - I think we will see them again.

I do see all of them all beating many of the perceived top class. Kind of sounds like your pissed at the performances?

Uh....well....
Damn dude...

I guess you're right. I had a perfectly good rant an u fucked it up by thinking rationally

[p4pking]

Yea, I think they will all fight again, but if you mean not at the level we are used to in Pacs case, or that some expected them to reach in Quillins, I think that's fair.
Manny could still well beat anyone at 147 not named Floyd, he could lose to a few as well of course and I highly doubt he will take on someone like Thurman or Brook.

Quillin doesn't have the craft to be an elite guy, but he can punch and still has time and options to build himself back up. He has no chance against GGG imo, but could still get in the mix, maybe even be CAneos first opponent at 160 if he doesn't want the Kazakh either.

Kirkland should retire though, no doubt.

[SlimTrae]

Not even Ann Wolfe can help him at this point?
Pac imo is in the blueprint scenario.
From Juan, Floyd & to a degree even Tim has set the blueprint: don't stand in the pocket.
Have lateral movement.
With that being said @147?
Pac beats Kell in what fashion?
Thurman in what fashion?
Maodana would be a good fight, but i could see Pac getting old and could lose that. Not a young Pac any more.
Anthony Dirrell is still viable but he won't beat any elite fighter.

[p4pking]

Not even Ann Wolfe can help him at this point?
Pac imo is in the blueprint scenario.
From Juan, Floyd & to a degree even Tim has set the blueprint: don't stand in the pocket.
Have lateral movement.
With that being said @147?
Pac beats Kell in what fashion?
Thurman in what fashion?
Maodana would be a good fight, but i could see Pac getting old and could lose that. Not a young Pac any more.
Anthony Dirrell is still viable but he won't beat any elite fighter.

Kirkland could win some TV friendly fights, it's not a deep division but he's not going to be a title contender.
Brook and THurman have yet to fight anyone nearly as good as Pacquiao, they aren't defensive masterminds and other much lesser guys have gotten to them. They are both very good, and big welters on the upside, those would be pick ems to me still though. As I said highly doubt PAc or his team take either on.
Andre Dirrell is still much better than his bro imo, he and DeGale is a very good pick em fight as well.

[SlimTrae]

Agreed.

2002-2012 version of Pac annihilates Thurman and Brook.
But

I think the changing of the guard is occurring.
Pac & PBF.
Froch @SMW
MW, SMW & LHW are changing the guards.
Crawford and it seems welter is changing in landscape.
Most veterans can't walk away.
Will Pac know when it's time?

[SlimTrae]

The older a fighter gets the more prone they are to injury.
I am sure a young Pac fights through injuries better than the current version.
That's why I think Pac on an elite level is done.

[TitoFan]

Pacquiao - no compelling reason to, however it all smells.
Kirkland & Quillen - I think we will see them again.

I do see all of them all beating many of the perceived top class. Kind of sounds like your pissed at the performances?

Uh....well....
Damn dude...

I guess you're right. I had a perfectly good rant an u fucked it up by thinking rationally

LMAO!

Good one, Slim.

But stick to your guns. At least with Kirkland and Pacquiao. They're done at the top level.
Kirkland a looong time ago. Pacquiao off his recent lackluster performances.