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    Default Re: He's not coming back: not after that performance

    Not even Ann Wolfe can help him at this point?
    Pac imo is in the blueprint scenario.
    From Juan, Floyd & to a degree even Tim has set the blueprint: don't stand in the pocket.
    Have lateral movement.
    With that being said @147?
    Pac beats Kell in what fashion?
    Thurman in what fashion?
    Maodana would be a good fight, but i could see Pac getting old and could lose that. Not a young Pac any more.
    Anthony Dirrell is still viable but he won't beat any elite fighter.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: He's not coming back: not after that performance

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Not even Ann Wolfe can help him at this point?
    Pac imo is in the blueprint scenario.
    From Juan, Floyd & to a degree even Tim has set the blueprint: don't stand in the pocket.
    Have lateral movement.
    With that being said @147?
    Pac beats Kell in what fashion?
    Thurman in what fashion?
    Maodana would be a good fight, but i could see Pac getting old and could lose that. Not a young Pac any more.
    Anthony Dirrell is still viable but he won't beat any elite fighter.

    Kirkland could win some TV friendly fights, it's not a deep division but he's not going to be a title contender.
    Brook and THurman have yet to fight anyone nearly as good as Pacquiao, they aren't defensive masterminds and other much lesser guys have gotten to them. They are both very good, and big welters on the upside, those would be pick ems to me still though. As I said highly doubt PAc or his team take either on.
    Andre Dirrell is still much better than his bro imo, he and DeGale is a very good pick em fight as well.

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    Default Re: He's not coming back: not after that performance

    Agreed.

    2002-2012 version of Pac annihilates Thurman and Brook.
    But

    I think the changing of the guard is occurring.
    Pac & PBF.
    Froch @SMW
    MW, SMW & LHW are changing the guards.
    Crawford and it seems welter is changing in landscape.
    Most veterans can't walk away.
    Will Pac know when it's time?
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: He's not coming back: not after that performance

    The older a fighter gets the more prone they are to injury.
    I am sure a young Pac fights through injuries better than the current version.
    That's why I think Pac on an elite level is done.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Who can Pascal beat at an elite level?
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: He's not coming back: not after that performance

    I think Kirkland has gone as far as he is going to be honest and will only take further damage when sold for his "explosive style". I sold my stock in Quillin last out. I think he doesn't know who or what he is and blew an opportunity to own a showcase. Manny may be a bit of both worlds after surgery...and laying a total dud. Losing event like that on top of wear and tear may just leave him guessing. No doubt he will have the opportunity again and even with his arm in a sling he probably still have enough to beat the tune up our of a Algieri or bloated bag like Rios.

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    Default Re: He's not coming back: not after that performance

    Kirkland is an enigma. We probably haven't seen the last of him. I've always enjoyed watching him but have always been puzzled by his actions which I'm sure most of us are. Quillen I've also always liked, in his case I hope we haven't seen the last of him. Pac of course has had a world class career. Amongst the greatest athletes to grace any sport. I hope he makes the right decision regarding his career. If it is time to go, I hope he does so gracefully. Getting old in the boxing ring isn't like getting old in a baseball diamond when you can't hit or field like you once did. Getting old in the ring can be seriously dangerous.

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    All 3 will come back but only Quillin will come back better.
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