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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
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    Fact 1, Cotto was offered 10 million plus to fight Alvarez.
    Fact 2, Cotto takes 7 million to fight Sergio Martinez instead.
    Fact 3, Cotto is guaranteed 12 million to fight Alvarez in May.
    Fact 4, The Golovkin camp express interest in fighting Cotto
    Fact 5, Cotto doesn't sign to fight Alvarez and refuses to negotiate with Golovkin
    Fact 6, Cotto signs to face the mediocre, recently steamrolled Daniel Geale

    Fake, wannabe boxing fans always confuse facts with hate.
    Cotto took the history making fight with Martinez, which turned out to be an exceptional business decision. He only turned it down the 2nd time because of his promotional situation. You're twisting facts again. Like I've said, I'm a huge fan of Canelo but lets not pretend he's even achieved anything on the level of Cotto. Also, I don't see Canelo negotiating with Golovkin, instead he fought the mediocre, steamrolled James Kirkland.
    Cotto took the fight against Martinez cuz it was easy pick-ins. Everybody knew Martinez knee was gone. Cotto don't give a damn about the middleweight title. If he did he would be defending it against the best middleweights out there. Or at least against the best opponent available. But he's not. For someone who says there a fan of Alvarez you sure are selling him short. Facts don't lie. And the facts are Alvarez is on a accelerated pace to surpass Cotto and several other superstar accomplishments. Alvarez has already beaten Lara, Kirkland, Angulo, Trout and has been in the ring against the best fighter in the world (Mayweather). And all he's trying to do now is get in ring against the middleweight champion (and he gets hated on for that). And he's only 24 years old. Aside from Japanese monster Naoya Inoue name me a fighter that has beaten that level of opposition at 24 years old. At 24 years old Cotto was fighting Demetrio Ceballos and Rocky Martinez. Mediocre fighters nowhere near the level of Lara or Trout. Now tell me. What facts did I twist now?


    Cotto wanted to be the first Puerto Rican fighter to win titles in four different weight divisions. Martinez was there and available. Cotto took it. Canelo would've done exactly the same thing if in Cotto's place, and to say otherwise is to insult the intelligence of everyone here.

    ... and again with the age thing.

    Once again... I'll rehash the same thing for the millionth time. You can't compare ages between Cotto and Canelo. Cotto turned pro at 21. That same year he suffered a serious car accident that produced career-threatening injuries, which he overcame to continue fighting. He won his first title (albeit regional) in his 14th fight against Cesar Bazan, and in his 21st fight beat Kelson Pinto for the WBO super lightweight title. His list of opponents has, and always will, put Canelo's list to shame.

    Meanwhile, Canelo turned pro at 15, fattening his pro record with a long series of bums. I told you what Cotto did for his 21st fight. What was Canelo doing at the same stage? His 20th fight was against the great Francisco Villanueva (5-17-2), who Canelo had already knocked out 3 months earlier!! I guess they ran out of fresh bums, so they decided to retread some used ones. He stayed comfortably within the friendly confines of Mexico until finally venturing out to Las Vegas for his 33rd fight, against Miguel's brother, Jose Miguel.

    What facts did you twist now? ALL of them.

    You keep lobbing half-truths this way....... I keep bashing them over the center field wall.


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    Default Re: Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Fact 1, Cotto was offered 10 million plus to fight Alvarez.
    Fact 2, Cotto takes 7 million to fight Sergio Martinez instead.
    Fact 3, Cotto is guaranteed 12 million to fight Alvarez in May.
    Fact 4, The Golovkin camp express interest in fighting Cotto
    Fact 5, Cotto doesn't sign to fight Alvarez and refuses to negotiate with Golovkin
    Fact 6, Cotto signs to face the mediocre, recently steamrolled Daniel Geale

    Fake, wannabe boxing fans always confuse facts with hate.
    Cotto took the history making fight with Martinez, which turned out to be an exceptional business decision. He only turned it down the 2nd time because of his promotional situation. You're twisting facts again. Like I've said, I'm a huge fan of Canelo but lets not pretend he's even achieved anything on the level of Cotto. Also, I don't see Canelo negotiating with Golovkin, instead he fought the mediocre, steamrolled James Kirkland.
    Cotto took the fight against Martinez cuz it was easy pick-ins. Everybody knew Martinez knee was gone. Cotto don't give a damn about the middleweight title. If he did he would be defending it against the best middleweights out there. Or at least against the best opponent available. But he's not. For someone who says there a fan of Alvarez you sure are selling him short. Facts don't lie. And the facts are Alvarez is on a accelerated pace to surpass Cotto and several other superstar accomplishments. Alvarez has already beaten Lara, Kirkland, Angulo, Trout and has been in the ring against the best fighter in the world (Mayweather). And all he's trying to do now is get in ring against the middleweight champion (and he gets hated on for that). And he's only 24 years old. Aside from Japanese monster Naoya Inoue name me a fighter that has beaten that level of opposition at 24 years old. At 24 years old Cotto was fighting Demetrio Ceballos and Rocky Martinez. Mediocre fighters nowhere near the level of Lara or Trout. Now tell me. What facts did I twist now?


    Cotto wanted to be the first Puerto Rican fighter to win titles in four different weight divisions. Martinez was there and available. Cotto took it. Canelo would've done exactly the same thing if in Cotto's place, and to say otherwise is to insult the intelligence of everyone here.

    ... and again with the age thing.

    Once again... I'll rehash the same thing for the millionth time. You can't compare ages between Cotto and Canelo. Cotto turned pro at 21. That same year he suffered a serious car accident that produced career-threatening injuries, which he overcame to continue fighting. He won his first title (albeit regional) in his 14th fight against Cesar Bazan, and in his 21st fight beat Kelson Pinto for the WBO super lightweight title. His list of opponents has, and always will, put Canelo's list to shame.

    Meanwhile, Canelo turned pro at 15, fattening his pro record with a long series of bums. I told you what Cotto did for his 21st fight. What was Canelo doing at the same stage? His 20th fight was against the great Francisco Villanueva (5-17-2), who Canelo had already knocked out 3 months earlier!! I guess they ran out of fresh bums, so they decided to retread some used ones. He stayed comfortably within the friendly confines of Mexico until finally venturing out to Las Vegas for his 33rd fight, against Miguel's brother, Jose Miguel.

    What facts did you twist now? ALL of them.

    You keep lobbing half-truths this way....... I keep bashing them over the center field wall.

    And after the Villanueva fight Alvarez faced for the 2nd time future champion Miguel Vazquez. The first time he faced him was in his 3rd fight. Cotto faced Waklimi Young in his 3rd fight. What the fuck is a Waklimi? You know the hate is strong in someone when they bad mouthed the opposition a fighter faced when he was 17, 18 years old. It boggles the mind what some people will say and embarrass themselves in the process just to hate. Think about it. Fighter A (Alvarez) is a 16, 17 year old kid fighting as a pro against grown men twice his age. At 16, 17 years old fighter B (Cotto) is fighting fellow 16, 17 year old kids wearing head gear and using pillow sized gloves. Yet some how fighter A gets hated on. Un fucking believable.

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