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    Default Re: Froch needs Ward and vice versa!

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    Bottom line, if he doesn't fight and beat Ward, he'll retire as never having been "the man" in his division.

    Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, Prince Naseem... all dominated their weight divisions for a time.
    Not Ricky.
    YES RICKY!

    He whipped the #1 guy in the division, Kostya, and became the #1 himself at 140!
    Kostya was on his way out at that time. Very lame. More lame than Sergioe Martinez was when he fought Cotto and we saw how much of a shape Martinez was in.
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    If the fight doesn't come off Froch walks off into the sunset with plenty of dough in the bank and great career behind him.


    Ward, whether the fight happens or not continues to be a guy that gets respect for his art but on the whole no one gives a shit about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    If the fight doesn't come off Froch walks off into the sunset with plenty of dough in the bank and great career behind him.


    Ward, whether the fight happens or not continues to be a guy that gets respect for his art but on the whole no one gives a shit about.
    I disagree on the Ward angle. With his talent, skills and being on the media by being a commentator, he has more upside in this second half of his career. All Ward has is GREAT options.

    1. GGG if GGG wants it
    2. Chavez Jr if Ward wants to move up and Chavez wants to get in shape
    3. Andy Lee
    4. Quillen if Quillen decides to cash out and retire
    5. Chilemba if Ward wants to move up
    6. Ramirez (good choice)
    8. Bute if Bute can get his nuts back
    9. DeGale
    10. Groves

    Ward has all of the playing field to review and make the right choices. He is back in the driving seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    If the fight doesn't come off Froch walks off into the sunset with plenty of dough in the bank and great career behind him.


    Ward, whether the fight happens or not continues to be a guy that gets respect for his art but on the whole no one gives a shit about.
    Maybe, maybe not, who knows how boxing will look at these two in the years to come?
    I'm thinking the fighter who won the 'Super Six World Boxing Classic' is going to shin brighter in the long run, with him being undefeated and all.

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    Default Re: Froch needs Ward and vice versa!

    Ward has so many options, which explains why his next fight is against Paul Smith on the black channel.

    He's the B-side against Froch.

    He's the B-side against GGG.

    And he knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Ward has so many options, which explains why his next fight is against Paul Smith on the black channel.

    He's the B-side against Froch.

    He's the B-side against GGG.

    And he knows it.
    Call it that Floyd shit with this a-side/b-side all you want. Fact of the matter is who can kick ass? Ward is the one bonafide to bring it and can be unbeatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Ward has so many options, which explains why his next fight is against Paul Smith on the black channel.

    He's the B-side against Froch.

    He's the B-side against GGG.

    And he knows it.
    He only needs one fight though and then he is the a-side against anyone. Just needs activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Ward has so many options, which explains why his next fight is against Paul Smith on the black channel.

    He's the B-side against Froch.

    He's the B-side against GGG.

    And he knows it.
    Ward is the B-side on the money aspect but the A-side on everything else.

    Ward would possibly beat froch and GGG in the same night.

    Froch is a warrior and I really like him as a person, but if he avenged his loss to kessler that same warrior instinct should want to beat ward in the rematch but he knows deep down he can't do it which is a bit disappointing.. but the money has overruled everything for his last fight rather than legacy and a massive cherry on the top if he beat andre ward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
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    Ward has so many options, which explains why his next fight is against Paul Smith on the black channel.

    He's the B-side against Froch.

    He's the B-side against GGG.

    And he knows it.
    Ward is the B-side on the money aspect but the A-side on everything else.

    Ward would possibly beat froch and GGG in the same night.

    Froch is a warrior and I really like him as a person, but if he avenged his loss to kessler that same warrior instinct should want to beat ward in the rematch but he knows deep down he can't do it which is a bit disappointing.. but the money has overruled everything for his last fight rather than legacy and a massive cherry on the top if he beat andre ward.
    It takes two to tango. The A-side gets to call the shots - as your hero Floyd so strenuously exhibits. Ward, being the B-side, refused to fight in England unless it was at Wembley stadium. Which is ridiculous.

    This is a guy that is a "nobody" in America let alone the rest of the world. He's not a PPV fighter. He's not a Vegas fighter. He never leaves his home turf and gets booed to fuck in his own State.

    Personally I quite like him - but that's the truth ruth.

    Froch doesn't need Ward. He's earned more in his last couple of fights than Ward has his entire career.
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    Default Re: Froch needs Ward and vice versa!

    Ward doesn't need him, he already beat his ass once, and did so clearly, he has plenty of options, GGG, Degale, Dirrel, and at 175 Pascal, Stevenson, Kovalev, Fonfara, and Chavez Jr

    Froch isn't a big numbers guy anyways so it isn't as if he'd be raking in PPV buys

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    Froch isn't a big numbers guy?

    Not even Floyd can match fighting in front of 80,000 at Wembley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Froch isn't a big numbers guy?

    Not even Floyd can match fighting in front of 80,000 at Wembley
    name one big ppv he's ever headlined and sold, cause there isn't any, comparing Froch to Mayweather or Pacquiao in sales is ridiculous, cause even if they haven't fought in stadiums as big as Wembley, they do more in sales than Froch ever has, which in reality generates the biggest portion of fight sales

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    Gennady Golovkin's promoter 'waiting' on Carl Froch | Boxing News | Sky Sports

    apparently GGG is calling Froch out, so no need to wait on Ward for a big money fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    name one big ppv he's ever headlined and sold, cause there isn't any, comparing Froch to Mayweather or Pacquiao in sales is ridiculous, cause even if they haven't fought in stadiums as big as Wembley, they do more in sales than Froch ever has, which in reality generates the biggest portion of fight sales
    Froch-Groves II did a million PPVs.

    Now sit down, because this is going to stun you - boxing is not just an American business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
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    Bottom line, if he doesn't fight and beat Ward, he'll retire as never having been "the man" in his division.

    Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, Prince Naseem... all dominated their weight divisions for a time.
    Not Ricky.
    YES RICKY!

    He whipped the #1 guy in the division, Kostya, and became the #1 himself at 140!
    Kostya was on his way out at that time. Very lame. More lame than Sergioe Martinez was when he fought Cotto and we saw how much of a shape Martinez was in.
    Hahaha maybe so, but at least he was still the #1 in that division for a while!

    Carl Froch was the #1 at 168... never!
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