American confederate flag

[SlimTrae]

This was the actual Confederate flag used through the second half of the Confederacy. All that white is there for a reason. It was known as the white man's flag. Here's what the guy who designed it had to say :

As a people, we are fighting to maintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause." And then in a later editorial, he cheered the design as one that will "be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN's FLAG..........As a national emblem it is significant of our higher cause [,] the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity and barbarism.


Here's what the vice-president of the Confederacy on what it was all about :

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea [to that of the United States Constitution]; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

“Corner Stone” Speech | Teaching American History


Here's what one Confederate state had to say about why they seceeded :

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.

Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Mississippi Secession


And Confederate states actually opposed states' rights, that is the right of northern states not to oppose slavery.

Interesting read, cheers.

Once again the powers that be have Succeeded.
No talk about people who died in a church. Fewer words from millionaire televangelists.

One would think this event would have overwhelmingly shown white and black and all churches uniting in the name of God. They haven't, so the powers that be slipped on in...by injecting the confederate flag.
Look at what it's done.....ignore the pain and suffering of black Christians murdered in what they thought was the house of the Lord..then Wonder why strong black men like me don't Give a godamn about Christianity.

There would be NO talk of a confederate flag if Christians Of America stood together.

Interesting Slim, I don't agree with everything you said, especially denigrating or dismissing a religious for such an issue but you look at things from an angle I can't see, just as you can't see my white angst.
I denigrated the religion of Christianity with words-based on the shallow-hallow response from Christians as it regards to the killing of Christians (9) to be exact.

I did not denigrate Christianity with actions like those of Dylann Roof a white guy who shot up a Christian church. And that doesn't irk you? Hurt you? Cause you to feel that he denigrated Christianity, yet I have?

I used words saying God... please Damn those Christians who wont stand up (God damn). Over actions of a man who damned people to the grave? In Hebrew it is called Sheol, correct?- the American rendering for that is hell. He sent your Christian brethren to hell..the grave - And you are so okay with that, you wouldn't write here- that he denigrated your faith? Or...are those 9 murdered Christians not your brethren & sisters?

Why should I respect a religion that will only stand up for Christians when its mulsims attacking, or when its liberals telling them ,they don't want their weak prayers in a public school?

If it were a Muslim who shot up a Christian church would U be silent? Or would U call it an act of terror?
Based on Roof's words is this not an act of racism? In the house of the lord at that?

The KKK is praising this act...in a (CHRISTIAN CHURCH). The group’s leader, Robert Jones, expressed support for Mr. Roof who stated: you’ve raped our women, and you are taking over the country … I have to do what I have to do. then he proceeded to shoot more women than men.
Would U like the link? I can send it. Or how about the Aryan Nation's leader Morris Gulett offered praise and urged others to follow Roof’s example.
And the dude didn't even have the confederate flag, he had the apartheid flag, so I am straight tripping at when, where and HOW did the confederate flag become a conversational piece in the last two weeks.

I am curious, although you already addressed it in a way, your view on the battles.
Do you mean the Un-civil war, revised to be called a civil war? If, so, my views are aligned with former Congressman Ron Paul from Texas. He rips the hell outta Lincoln for waging a war on behalf of (saving the union).
A war that
1. Industrialized the nation by taking land, resources from the many and giving to the few (Rockefeller, Carnegie) to name a few.. The railroads, to utilities..
2. Pitted freed states against enslaved states that didn't go down like that in other slave holding countries-when it came time freedom- they ended it- with finances offered- -The USA went to war over it. Serious what God backs a nation like that?
3. Allowed the bank charters that Andrew Jackson fought to end- to slowly creep back in.

As I quote Lincoln who stated :
"If I could save the union by keeping slavery alive, I will. And if I can save the union by emancipating the slaves I will."


I for one am grateful we don't live under it and it's principles but I look at it a a historic part of American history. Perhaps it does deserve to be relegated to museum collection, I'd just like to see the state's decide that, not media attention. Anyway, can you see it as a historical flag of the country or do you find it offensive, just curious I like to hear differing opinions.

The Confederate flag? To me it represents what the keepers of that flag want it to represent. If it is called "their" heritage NP. then define it -don't just say it represents our heritage , then walk away.
What does this heritage consist of?
Until it is explained many minorities see it as:

A heritage of white superiority, over minorities.

A heritage that deduced Blacks, Native Americans to Mexicans in a class denied education, land, justice under the law . In fact under that law- whites could enforce the "eyeball" law. Boy...u eye balling that white woman?

What a gr8 flag for whites. But how is it gr8 for nonwhites? If so, teach me. If not then how does that flag represent anything other than white justice?