Saddo poll - Where are you on Floyd

[Beanflicker]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

[Mark TKO]

Greatest defensive fighter , ring craftsman and technician of all time

Worst attacking champion of all time

What would Floyd do if an opponent just came out when the bell rang and leaned back on the ropes and waited ?

[ruthless rocco]

Greatest defensive fighter , ring craftsman and technician of all time

Worst attacking champion of all time

What would Floyd do if an opponent just came out when the bell rang and leaned back on the ropes and waited ?

Floyd would love that!
He'd get hit even less then if the opponent attacked him.

[VG_Addict]

Someone on another site said that Canelo was green when Floyd fought him. That's ridiculous.

Canelo had 41 fights prior to Floyd. He wasn't green at all.

[Master]

Someone on another site said that Canelo was green when Floyd fought him. That's ridiculous.

Canelo had 41 fights prior to Floyd. He wasn't green at all.

Canelo was inept in that fight and should have used his size and strenght. He was forced to weigh 1lb less and that may have had some impact.

[mikeeod]

Someone on another site said that Canelo was green when Floyd fought him. That's ridiculous.

Canelo had 41 fights prior to Floyd. He wasn't green at all.

I say the same thing. It's not the sheer number of fights, it's the jump in class/exposure. Kid went to a mega fight without fighting the competition necessary to challenge the worlds best fighter. If you follow the sport, you know how high caliber the majority of those fights (especially in Mexico) were. Kid didn't even punch in that fight, just followed afloyd n got punched in his face. He froze in the moment.

[TitoFan]

Someone on another site said that Canelo was green when Floyd fought him. That's ridiculous.

Canelo had 41 fights prior to Floyd. He wasn't green at all.

If green = overly hyped, I'd say Canelo was greener than moldy cheese.

[ruthless rocco]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

[mikeeod]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

[ruthless rocco]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.

[C.J.Rock]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.

Rocco thinks Floyd walks on water ROFLMAO

[frozensolid-702]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.

Rocco thinks Floyd walks on water ROFLMAO

Yep... The reach advantage and natural size difference has always been the key to beating Floyd, because he's never been at a disadvantage in either of those categories.
Try harder

[Master]

Floyd is a quality fighter but could he have remained undisputed champion when Pernell, ike, Tito and Oscar were around at that time? No way, never mind Leonard, Hearns and Duran ( for the one fight at least).

[Beanflicker]

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

It actually is a fair point made by Rocco.

If a guy is standing completely upright and a guy is leaning more forward like Floyd does, doesn't it stand to reason that the guy leaning forward can reach farther? Especially if the difference in total reach is only half an inch?

[mikeeod]

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

It actually is a fair point made by Rocco.

If a guy is standing completely upright and a guy is leaning more forward like Floyd does, doesn't it stand to reason that the guy leaning forward can reach farther? Especially if the difference in total reach is only half an inch?

Not being a jerk, but have you ever actually boxed before? Boxing "upright", or boxing "tall" is advantageous to the taller guy with the longer reach. Blading ur body as much as Floyd does and boxing out of a shoulder roll/crouch doesn't give u any kind of reach advantage. Look at how the Klits/Lewis fight for an example of fighting tall/upright and how effective that can be. Floyd's weapons against Tito would've been foot movement, angles/footwork, and speed. He would've landed the jab, as Hop and Oscar did, when Tito was setting his feet to punch, but if they throw jabs at the same time/speed, Tito lands his from farther away. Rocco is an idiot and rarely brings up any good points.