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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.
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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.
    I'm not saying whether or not they're chinny. I'm saying that I think they're bigger.

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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.
    Weight is a factor master, of course it is.

    If a 250lb boxer no matter what skill level or amount of Ko's on their record caught you flush hes more than likely going to level you!

    Now moan about me bringing up actual experience of boxing but I can tell you first hand there are big differences between small weight disparrities. Thats why some fighters are excellent at cutting weight to stay in a lower weight than naturally their body should be fighting at.
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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.
    Weight is a factor master, of course it is.

    If a 250lb boxer no matter what skill level or amount of Ko's on their record caught you flush hes more than likely going to level you!

    Now moan about me bringing up actual experience of boxing but I can tell you first hand there are big differences between small weight disparrities. Thats why some fighters are excellent at cutting wright to stay in a lower weight than naturally their body should be fighting at.

    Chemists have found ways of making our bodies stronger and bigger but they will never find a way of better cushioning the brain from that extra force and weight.

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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.


    Exactly! And because power does not come from weight, we can't automatically assume today's behemoths (Wlad, Fury) punch harder than the Lennoxes and the Mike Tysons just because they're bigger. And yet my point remains, which is that we used to see more meaningful exchanges between the heavyweights of that era (Lewis, Tyson, Vitali, etc) than we do now..... at least where Wladimir and maybe now Fury are concerned.

    It's like now they're more conscious of their size and power... and more afraid of taking a decent shot on the chin. This all started with Wlad, of course, who was the King of fighting like a scared deer protecting that fragile chin of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.


    Exactly! And because power does not come from weight, we can't automatically assume today's behemoths (Wlad, Fury) punch harder than the Lennoxes and the Mike Tysons just because they're bigger. And yet my point remains, which is that we used to see more meaningful exchanges between the heavyweights of that era (Lewis, Tyson, Vitali, etc) than we do now..... at least where Wladimir and maybe now Fury are concerned.

    It's like now they're more conscious of their size and power... and more afraid of taking a decent shot on the chin. This all started with Wlad, of course, who was the King of fighting like a scared deer protecting that fragile chin of his.
    I just dont agree and cant.

    Lennox was a big heavy man himself!!

    Mike Tyson is a good example. Although not a small heavyweight in the sense of weight, compared to the 70's fighters he is small compared to the big fighters today but renowned for power. Freddie Roach has taken both Mike Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko on the pads and he is quoted as saying although Mikes punches were more explosive Wlad landed with more weight.

    Obviously if you have that kind of weight landing its going to move you and move you more than someone 30 or 40lb lighter.

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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.


    Exactly! And because power does not come from weight, we can't automatically assume today's behemoths (Wlad, Fury) punch harder than the Lennoxes and the Mike Tysons just because they're bigger. And yet my point remains, which is that we used to see more meaningful exchanges between the heavyweights of that era (Lewis, Tyson, Vitali, etc) than we do now..... at least where Wladimir and maybe now Fury are concerned.

    It's like now they're more conscious of their size and power... and more afraid of taking a decent shot on the chin. This all started with Wlad, of course, who was the King of fighting like a scared deer protecting that fragile chin of his.
    I just dont agree and cant.

    Lennox was a big heavy man himself!!

    Mike Tyson is a good example. Although not a small heavyweight in the sense of weight, compared to the 70's fighters he is small compared to the big fighters today but renowned for power. Freddie Roach has taken both Mike Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko on the pads and he is quoted as saying although Mikes punches were more explosive Wlad landed with more weight.

    Obviously if you have that kind of weight landing its going to move you and move you more than someone 30 or 40lb lighter.
    OK I should have written knockout do not come from power alone the biggest factors are surprise of not expecting it, speed and technique.
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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    I think HWs have gotten even bigger since Lewis.

    Joseph Parker weighed 235.4 lbs against Meehan, and Anthony Joshua weighed 249 lbs against Cornish.
    I do not think they are chinny. Power does not come from the weight.


    Exactly! And because power does not come from weight, we can't automatically assume today's behemoths (Wlad, Fury) punch harder than the Lennoxes and the Mike Tysons just because they're bigger. And yet my point remains, which is that we used to see more meaningful exchanges between the heavyweights of that era (Lewis, Tyson, Vitali, etc) than we do now..... at least where Wladimir and maybe now Fury are concerned.

    It's like now they're more conscious of their size and power... and more afraid of taking a decent shot on the chin. This all started with Wlad, of course, who was the King of fighting like a scared deer protecting that fragile chin of his.
    I just dont agree and cant.

    Lennox was a big heavy man himself!!

    Mike Tyson is a good example. Although not a small heavyweight in the sense of weight, compared to the 70's fighters he is small compared to the big fighters today but renowned for power. Freddie Roach has taken both Mike Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko on the pads and he is quoted as saying although Mikes punches were more explosive Wlad landed with more weight.

    Obviously if you have that kind of weight landing its going to move you and move you more than someone 30 or 40lb lighter.
    OK I should have written knockout do not come from power alone the biggest factors are surprise of not expecting it, speed and technique.
    Yes thats correct but men arent that much less skilled these days. So the shots that are landing are landing with more weight and until a fighters ability to take a punch is improved like the ability to increase strength then fighters will get stopped more frequently.

    Basically if Ali was fighting today hed be probably 10 to 20lb heavier muscled.

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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    I think the top heavyweights are less skilled than they were in the 1990's and 1970's heavyweights
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    Default Re: Is it fair to say today's HW champions are more chinny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I think the top heavyweights are less skilled than they were in the 1990's and 1970's heavyweights
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