Joshua - Whyte (What A Fight)

[ross]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

Yeah you've kinda skipped forward ten fights there and completely dodged the question.


If that's your approach and 'Tyson beat Wlad so there' is all you've got there's really no point in debating the matter is there?

Oh dont get your knickers in a twist petal!

Tyson did beat Wlad and easy so clearly his career approach worked

[Memphis]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

Yeah you've kinda skipped forward ten fights there and completely dodged the question.


If that's your approach and 'Tyson beat Wlad so there' is all you've got there's really no point in debating the matter is there?

Oh dont get your knickers in a twist petal!

Tyson did beat Wlad and easy so clearly his career approach worked

Who's getting their knickers in a twist? You're the one that's failing to answer the question posed and skipping forward to a point in Tysons career that is more palatable to you.


You can either answer the question or keep saying Tyson beat Wlad so there. It's an easy course to take and I don't blame you for taking it, it requires very little thought on your part.

[Dark Lord Al]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

Yeah you've kinda skipped forward ten fights there and completely dodged the question.


If that's your approach and 'Tyson beat Wlad so there' is all you've got there's really no point in debating the matter is there?

Oh dont get your knickers in a twist petal!

Tyson did beat Wlad and easy so clearly his career approach worked

Who's getting their knickers in a twist? You're the one that's failing to answer the question posed and skipping forward to a point in Tysons career that is more palatable to you.


You can either answer the question or keep saying Tyson beat Wlad so there. It's an easy course to take and I don't blame you for taking it, it requires very little thought on your part.

Careful Memphis he has mentioned knickers and called you petal , I think its time to leave the thread.

[ross]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

Yeah you've kinda skipped forward ten fights there and completely dodged the question.


If that's your approach and 'Tyson beat Wlad so there' is all you've got there's really no point in debating the matter is there?

Oh dont get your knickers in a twist petal!

Tyson did beat Wlad and easy so clearly his career approach worked

Who's getting their knickers in a twist? You're the one that's failing to answer the question posed and skipping forward to a point in Tysons career that is more palatable to you.


You can either answer the question or keep saying Tyson beat Wlad so there. It's an easy course to take and I don't blame you for taking it, it requires very little thought on your part.

Careful Memphis he has mentioned knickers and called you petal , I think its time to leave the thread.

What before you start telling us all how toned Joshua is