Who is the best and worst of britains 12 world champions?

[erics44]

This is the definitive order

Frampton
Quigg
Selby
Brook
degale
Fury
Smith
Flanaghan
Crolla
saunders
mcdonnel
haskins

just let me challenge some

crolla is above saunders yet crolla has lost to some less than amazing fighters where as saunders has looked pretty good, at least beating all the best british fights and generally quite comfortably

Selby is above brook yet Selby hasn't really beaten a fighter in his division as highly regarded as the fighter brook beat for the world title

Frampton is above quigg and quigg just beat a fighter in 2 rounds that Frampton has been 22 rounds with

and fury is in 6th, yet fury is the only fighter considered "the man" in his division, easily beating a long standing 10 year champion lb4lb ATG top 10 in his own back yard

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I was just messing with that last one

I can tell you are at work because you have too much time on your hands.

youre absolutely right

[erics44]

@erics44 , have you actually said who you think is the best, without the if's , but's and maybe's? 😉😂

Brook

have you?

[ross]

Yeah it's about opinions. The question asked - who is the best and worst? We can't prove Fury is a better fighter than Lee Haskins, just that on paper he beat a more famous champion.

Fury is THE man in his division, it doesn't mean he's unbeatable or even the best fighter.

Brook, DeGale, Frampton, Quigg and Selby all operate in far, far tougher divisons than the heavyweight one.

Jesus christ! Hes the man in the division, best fighter until someone beats him!!

In his division he is the best fighter!! He beat and unbeatable top ten all time great in his home town easy. Tyson is easily the best fighter in Britain hard to swallow as it is for you!

Do any of the others really stand a chance at beating the best in their divisions?

The fighters you mentioned may fight in more competative divisions but have they beaten the best n their division? Are they capable of it? De Gale was lucky to get past Bute! Does Brook really stand a chance against Pacquiao? Frampton amd Quigg would beat Rigo

I can't stand DeGale, but he's more than capable of beating Badou Jack, who else is there that he wouldn't be favoured against?And why can't Brook beat Pacquiao? He might lose to Thurman, Bradley or Spence, but he could beat Pac.

They might, they maybe? They havent Tyson has!

Yeah it's about opinions. The question asked - who is the best and worst? We can't prove Fury is a better fighter than Lee Haskins, just that on paper he beat a more famous champion.

Fury is THE man in his division, it doesn't mean he's unbeatable or even the best fighter.

Brook, DeGale, Frampton, Quigg and Selby all operate in far, far tougher divisons than the heavyweight one.

In his division he is the best fighter!! He beat and unbeatable top ten all time great in his home town easy. Tyson is easily the best fighter in Britain hard to swallow as it is for you!

Do any of the others really stand a chance at beating the best in their divisions?

The fighters you mentioned may fight in more competative divisions but have they beaten the best n their division? Are they capable of it? De Gale was lucky to get past Bute! Does Brook really stand a chance against Pacquiao? Frampton amd Quigg would beat Rigo

Exactly.

Bute/Dirrell are superior boxers to Wlad. Quigg and Frampton are in a division with Rigo and Donaire. Superior boxers to Wlad. Brook doesn't just have Pac but also Bradley, Thurman, Porter, Khan, Spence etc, all superior boxers to Wlad. Lee Selby has Loma, Russell jr, Santa Cruz etc.

Most of these guys are in or around the PPV top ten. Neither Fury or any other heavyweight is. (check The RING mag)

Tyson is the best fighter in the UK in your OPINION not mine. Tyson isn't even the best heavyweight in my opinion.

Your opinion is shit then. Who did you thnk was the best before Wlad v Fury?

To become the best you have to beat the best.

Also, they may be able t beat them but until they do they havent and therefe cant claim to be the best in their division like Tyson can.

You mugs!

So, when Leon Spinks beat Ali, he was asked straight after the fight. "Leon, you've just beaten Muhammad Ali , are you now The Greatest?"
Spinks replied "No, Ali will always be the Greatest, I'm just the Latest!"
What he really Should've said is " Well Ross says I am , so I must be!"
Ross, you're a fucking Clown, not much else to say really.
Happy New Year and keep enjoying the Circus!

No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug.

I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.

[Dark Lord Al]

Are we talking p4p best ability as a fighter ?

[Primo Carnera]

@erics44 , have you actually said who you think is the best, without the if's , but's and maybe's? 😉😂

Brook

have you?

Yeah, right at the start. I said Selby, but this time next year Callum Smith. You even replied! 😄

[ross]

Are we talking p4p best ability as a fighter ?

Doesnt matter which way you look at it. Fury is the only one to prove himself against the best in his division.

Would Brook beat Pacquiao? Probably not and until he does hes not better than Fury.

De Gale would not beat Ward who has moved up but only recently. He barely scraped past Bute!!

[Primo Carnera]

"No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug."


Ok, and the difference between those 2 fights above and Fury v Wlad AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is?
Not "after his next fight" or "if he does this" or "when he does that".
Yet you say "DeGale hasn't done this and Brook hasn't done that." YOU MUG HYPOCRITE! 😂😂


"I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.[/QUOTE]"


Ha ha, funny that , but it's not the impression I get from the PM's I receive or those "likes" I get when I show you up, that you get all paranoid and pissy about! 😂😂😂
You fucking absolute Baby!

[ross]

"No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug."


Ok, and the difference between those 2 fights above and Fury v Wlad AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is?
Not "after his next fight" or "if he does this" or "when he does that".
Yet you say "DeGale hasn't done this and Brook hasn't done that." YOU MUG HYPOCRITE! 😂😂


"I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.

"


Ha ha, funny that , but it's not the impression I get from the PM's I receive or those "likes" I get when I show you up, that you get all paranoid and pissy about! 😂😂😂
You fucking absolute Baby![/QUOTE]

You show me up!!

Id suggest that those who are PM ing you are just as thick as yourself and are too gutless to even say whatever your little scaredy cat messages supporting each other against big scarey Ross in the open

If your too thck to realise, Fury wasnt a massive underdog like Spinks and Douglas and Wlad didnt come in under prepared or fat. Those who know what they are talking about knew Tyson was going to win or at least give Wlad lots of major problems hence why the fight had so much interest. He tried every trick in the book to get the upper hand but failed because Tyson is too good.

[Primo Carnera]

"No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug."


Ok, and the difference between those 2 fights above and Fury v Wlad AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is?
Not "after his next fight" or "if he does this" or "when he does that".
Yet you say "DeGale hasn't done this and Brook hasn't done that." YOU MUG HYPOCRITE! 😂😂


"I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.

"


Ha ha, funny that , but it's not the impression I get from the PM's I receive or those "likes" I get when I show you up, that you get all paranoid and pissy about! 😂😂😂
You fucking absolute Baby!

You show me up!!

Id suggest that those who are PM ing you are just as thick as yourself and are too gutless to even say whatever your little scaredy cat messages supporting each other against big scarey Ross in the open

If your too thck to realise, Fury wasnt a massive underdog like Spinks and Douglas and Wlad didnt come in under prepared or fat. Those who know what they are talking about knew Tyson was going to win or at least give Wlad lots of major problems hence why the fight had so much interest. He tried every trick in the book to get the upper hand but failed because Tyson is too good.[/QUOTE]

Yep, guys, that is what a Complete prick sounds like above!!😂😂😂
So when Douglas and Spinks won their fights, Ali and Tyson were unprepared and fat, but Wlad wasn't old was he?
Knobhead!

[ross]

"No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug."


Ok, and the difference between those 2 fights above and Fury v Wlad AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is?
Not "after his next fight" or "if he does this" or "when he does that".
Yet you say "DeGale hasn't done this and Brook hasn't done that." YOU MUG HYPOCRITE! 😂😂


"I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.

"


Ha ha, funny that , but it's not the impression I get from the PM's I receive or those "likes" I get when I show you up, that you get all paranoid and pissy about! 😂😂😂
You fucking absolute Baby!

You show me up!!

Id suggest that those who are PM ing you are just as thick as yourself and are too gutless to even say whatever your little scaredy cat messages supporting each other against big scarey Ross in the open

If your too thck to realise, Fury wasnt a massive underdog like Spinks and Douglas and Wlad didnt come in under prepared or fat. Those who know what they are talking about knew Tyson was going to win or at least give Wlad lots of major problems hence why the fight had so much interest. He tried every trick in the book to get the upper hand but failed because Tyson is too good.

Yep, guys, that is what a Complete prick sounds like above!!😂😂😂
So when Douglas and Spinks won their fights, Ali and Tyson were unprepared and fat, but Wlad wasn't old was he?
Knobhead![/QUOTE]

Was he old when he flattened Pulev? When he went to America and won almost every round against Americas best challenger?

You utter helmet

[Primo Carnera]

"No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug."


Ok, and the difference between those 2 fights above and Fury v Wlad AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is?
Not "after his next fight" or "if he does this" or "when he does that".
Yet you say "DeGale hasn't done this and Brook hasn't done that." YOU MUG HYPOCRITE! 😂😂


"I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.

"


Ha ha, funny that , but it's not the impression I get from the PM's I receive or those "likes" I get when I show you up, that you get all paranoid and pissy about! 😂😂😂
You fucking absolute Baby!

You show me up!!

Id suggest that those who are PM ing you are just as thick as yourself and are too gutless to even say whatever your little scaredy cat messages supporting each other against big scarey Ross in the open

If your too thck to realise, Fury wasnt a massive underdog like Spinks and Douglas and Wlad didnt come in under prepared or fat. Those who know what they are talking about knew Tyson was going to win or at least give Wlad lots of major problems hence why the fight had so much interest. He tried every trick in the book to get the upper hand but failed because Tyson is too good.

Yep, guys, that is what a Complete prick sounds like above!!😂😂😂
So when Douglas and Spinks won their fights, Ali and Tyson were unprepared and fat, but Wlad wasn't old was he?
Knobhead!

Was he old when he flattened Pulev? When he went to America and won almost every round against Americas best challenger?

You utter helmet[/QUOTE]
Was Tyson unprepared or fat when he KO'd Williams in round 1? And was Ali Old,unprepared and fat when he beat Earnie Shavers? Same difference you sap.

[Silkeyjoe]

My list in order:

1. Brook
2. DeGale
3. Frampton
4. Selby
5. Flanagan
6. Fury
7. Saunders
8. Quigg
9. McDonnell
10. Crolla
11. Smith
12. Haskins

[p4pking]

I think Brook would beat Pacquiao now, he's probably my pick, but impossible to say really. I do think you have to put a lot of stock in Fury having the best win and being the only recognized champ though, that's a solid argument. As overall talents, Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield weren't half as good as Zab Judah. It's never fair to rate HW's next to smaller guys on skill/athleticism alone.

[ross]

I think Brook would beat Pacquiao now, he's probably my pick, but impossible to say really. I do think you have to put a lot of stock in Fury having the best win and being the only recognized champ though, that's a solid argument. As overall talents, Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield weren't half as good as Zab Judah. It's never fair to rate HW's next to smaller guys on skill/athleticism alone.

Are you fuckng mental!

Zab Judah has nothing on Holyfield or Lewis!!

He is still most well known for that dance against Tszyu!

Jeezus! I cant believe some of the comments in here

Talent doesnt just mean being able to punch fast

Being tough is a talent. Over coming other fighters attributes is a talent blah blah blah I could go on. Those who know what they are talking about will know what I mean and that Zab being twice as good as Lewis and Holyfield is a ridiculous statement!

[ross]

"No he wasnt the greatest but for a brief moment like when Douglas beat Tyson he was the recognised best and lineal heavyweight champ of the world you mug."


Ok, and the difference between those 2 fights above and Fury v Wlad AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is?
Not "after his next fight" or "if he does this" or "when he does that".
Yet you say "DeGale hasn't done this and Brook hasn't done that." YOU MUG HYPOCRITE! 😂😂


"I get embarassed reading some of the crap you come out with. Anyone new to this forum will think your as thick as fuck.

"


Ha ha, funny that , but it's not the impression I get from the PM's I receive or those "likes" I get when I show you up, that you get all paranoid and pissy about! 😂😂😂
You fucking absolute Baby!

You show me up!!

Id suggest that those who are PM ing you are just as thick as yourself and are too gutless to even say whatever your little scaredy cat messages supporting each other against big scarey Ross in the open

If your too thck to realise, Fury wasnt a massive underdog like Spinks and Douglas and Wlad didnt come in under prepared or fat. Those who know what they are talking about knew Tyson was going to win or at least give Wlad lots of major problems hence why the fight had so much interest. He tried every trick in the book to get the upper hand but failed because Tyson is too good.

Yep, guys, that is what a Complete prick sounds like above!!😂😂😂
So when Douglas and Spinks won their fights, Ali and Tyson were unprepared and fat, but Wlad wasn't old was he?
Knobhead!

Was he old when he flattened Pulev? When he went to America and won almost every round against Americas best challenger?

You utter helmet

Was Tyson unprepared or fat when he KO'd Williams in round 1? And was Ali Old,unprepared and fat when he beat Earnie Shavers? Same difference you sap.[/QUOTE]

You are wasting space in here.

This forum has gone downhill with you muppets.

The fact they can still get wins over fringe contenders is just testiment to their level as fighters.

You just talk utter shit!