Britain vote to leave the EU

[Mark TKO]

I'm just adding to my list

But good call anyway

[ruthless rocco]

...and do you really think people will be getting their gardens brazillianed on the regular now that your economy is worse than France's and your pound is tanking?

Where are your tradesmen going to be working now?

Looks like I've identified another cunt on Saddos

Guess many of you will be looking like cunts waiting in the dole queue.

Good luck!

[Primo Carnera]

Not racist at all. And people who say it is are proper cunts in my opinion.

My brother works in building industry and now struggles to compete with the poles etc who can seriously undercut with their quotes.

Good for consumers as its not as if they do a bad job but for our tradesmen....

If your Brother is getting "seriously" undercut by the Poles etc. and they , as you stated do a decent job, then perhaps your Brother is quoting too high, no?

No. The poles quite often share houses between families down there and save costs accordingly. Also probably don't spend like we do on booze holidays loose women and sky TV etc. I'm not saying that's wrong but should British workers have to change their lifestyles to compete.

Good example of this was a colleague of mine in the London office who used findatradesmen website to get quotes for some landscape gardening. She got four quotes. Three were between 1500-1800 and one was 600. Being a tight arse she went with the 600 who was a Pole. She was worried about the job he would do but turned out he did an excellent job. She's recommended him to others in the office. The guy at the time lived in a squat but has since moved into a shared house with another two families.

Although I have to be honest if I was in London and needed some gardening jobs doing I would probably now go with him too to save valuable money for gambling, booze and whores etc

So you see the problem...

Yeah I do see the problem. And if your views above are a good reflection of the people who voted to leave, I'm pleased for all of you and wish all of us the best of luck.
I think we might need it.

[ruthless rocco]

But wait...!!!!!

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/anthony-hilton-why-we-may-remain-even-if-we-vote-leave-a3272621.html

[Mark TKO]

Not racist at all. And people who say it is are proper cunts in my opinion.

My brother works in building industry and now struggles to compete with the poles etc who can seriously undercut with their quotes.

Good for consumers as its not as if they do a bad job but for our tradesmen....

If your Brother is getting "seriously" undercut by the Poles etc. and they , as you stated do a decent job, then perhaps your Brother is quoting too high, no?

No. The poles quite often share houses between families down there and save costs accordingly. Also probably don't spend like we do on booze holidays loose women and sky TV etc. I'm not saying that's wrong but should British workers have to change their lifestyles to compete.

Good example of this was a colleague of mine in the London office who used findatradesmen website to get quotes for some landscape gardening. She got four quotes. Three were between 1500-1800 and one was 600. Being a tight arse she went with the 600 who was a Pole. She was worried about the job he would do but turned out he did an excellent job. She's recommended him to others in the office. The guy at the time lived in a squat but has since moved into a shared house with another two families.

Although I have to be honest if I was in London and needed some gardening jobs doing I would probably now go with him too to save valuable money for gambling, booze and whores etc

So you see the problem...

Yeah I do see the problem. And if your views above are a good reflection of the people who voted to leave, I'm pleased for all of you and wish all of us the best of luck.
I think we might need it.

Thanks mate. Appreciate it

[Britkid]

I think it unlikely we leave this side of an election.

It is far too complicated to be resolved inside two years.

There is an ambitious Labour MP looking at the situation, and thinking they can go down as great PM, saving the UK and the EU splitting up.

Cameron goes down in history as the UK's worst PM, as he has allowed the UK the chance to leave the EU and by doing so may split the UK. Even Eden was not that bad!

The two things we have got to look forward to in the short/medium term is a bit of inflation as the weak Pound will put our fuel (car/heating) and import prices up. And I do not think many multinationals will risk too much instability, so unemployment will go up and we will probably not see them jobs return no matter what happens.

[superheavyrhun]

I think it unlikely we leave this side of an election.

It is far too complicated to be resolved inside two years.

There is an ambitious Labour MP looking at the situation, and thinking they can go down as great PM, saving the UK and the EU splitting up.

Cameron goes down in history as the UK's worst PM, as he has allowed the UK the chance to leave the EU and by doing so may split the UK. Even Eden was not that bad!

The two things we have got to look forward to in the short/medium term is a bit of inflation as the weak Pound will put our fuel (car/heating) and import prices up. And I do not think many multinationals will risk too much instability, so unemployment will go up and we will probably not see them jobs return no matter what happens.

David Cameron's complete cuntishness cannot be underestimated in making this happen. What an absolute tool. He was 100% confident that the country would never vote to leave, but while I may have been harsh with my earlier comment, he is definitely a complete fucking moron.

[ruthless rocco]

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/nigel-farage-admits-his-bold-brexit-claim-was-mistake

[Gandalf]

Okay, so people voted on the basis of immigration and wanting to stop the free movement of people - but why base a vote on that when even the leaders of the Brexit campaign are admitting that the vote to leave will have no impact on this particular aspect? I just wish those fucking Anglo-Saxons would fuck off where they came from and give me my country back. I just want to feel like I'm a Celtic Briton without this ridiculous influx of foreigners.

They are already winding in the promises of 350 million extra per week for the NHS.

What annoys me is that so much of the vote was based on issues that will not be affected by the decision to leave the EU. And now we'll all have to work harder and longer to maintain the same standard of living, or accept that it is going to deteriorate.

Why is anything going to deteriorate? Hasn't that already happened in recent years? Being a part of the EU has nothing to do with that. It's about self determination at the end of the day. Why people have such a thing for something that looks like the former Soviet Union is baffling. The short term effect on markets is what it is, but unless you are invested in stocks and shares or have a vested interest in exchange rates, then it shouldn't matter too much. I happen to like the exchange rate myself. Britain has a trade deficit with the EU, so they have more to lose. The globe is a much more positive place for the Brits to trade with as Europeans are broke and the UK does much better there.

The problem the UK has is its voting system. In direct democracy you hear the will of the people. In a system of seats, the system is much more easily rigged in favor of the 3 main parties who are laughing at people really. If nothing changes it is because those parties are not willing to listen. Already the Tories are stalling on leaving the EU and it will take years to set it in motion. Then Labour is off its rocker saying it's Corbyn's fault that the core doesn't like Blairism. All Labour really needs to do is listen and admit a few errors. In the 1980's Labour was against the EU. That Labour would do well today.

Basically I don't see what you are complaining about Rhun as nothing has changed except for the markets wetting the bed a little bit. There are plenty of things people can do to hedge against that, so I have little sympathy there.

[Gandalf]

I think it unlikely we leave this side of an election.

It is far too complicated to be resolved inside two years.

There is an ambitious Labour MP looking at the situation, and thinking they can go down as great PM, saving the UK and the EU splitting up.

Cameron goes down in history as the UK's worst PM, as he has allowed the UK the chance to leave the EU and by doing so may split the UK. Even Eden was not that bad!

The two things we have got to look forward to in the short/medium term is a bit of inflation as the weak Pound will put our fuel (car/heating) and import prices up. And I do not think many multinationals will risk too much instability, so unemployment will go up and we will probably not see them jobs return no matter what happens.

Inflation from more expensive imports shouldn't be an issue in a country like the UK. It has become far too reliant on an unbalanced system of trade and they should just follow Russia's lead in growing and making more food and making more products. This can be a good thing for the UK. They got lazy relying on cheap imports and cheap labour.

[Beanz]

...and do you really think people will be getting their gardens brazillianed on the regular now that your economy is worse than France's and your pound is tanking?

Where are your tradesmen going to be working now?

Looks like I've identified another cunt on Saddos

Not sure why people who didn't vote in the referendum even bother to discuss it.
Maybe they will be happier when Trump gets in .

Why don't you be consistent and tell Brockton to wind his neck in as well then?

[Beanz]

Okay, so people voted on the basis of immigration and wanting to stop the free movement of people - but why base a vote on that when even the leaders of the Brexit campaign are admitting that the vote to leave will have no impact on this particular aspect? I just wish those fucking Anglo-Saxons would fuck off where they came from and give me my country back. I just want to feel like I'm a Celtic Briton without this ridiculous influx of foreigners.

They are already winding in the promises of 350 million extra per week for the NHS.

What annoys me is that so much of the vote was based on issues that will not be affected by the decision to leave the EU. And now we'll all have to work harder and longer to maintain the same standard of living, or accept that it is going to deteriorate.

Why is anything going to deteriorate? Hasn't that already happened in recent years? Being a part of the EU has nothing to do with that. It's about self determination at the end of the day. Why people have such a thing for something that looks like the former Soviet Union is baffling. The short term effect on markets is what it is, but unless you are invested in stocks and shares or have a vested interest in exchange rates, then it shouldn't matter too much. I happen to like the exchange rate myself. Britain has a trade deficit with the EU, so they have more to lose. The globe is a much more positive place for the Brits to trade with as Europeans are broke and the UK does much better there.

The problem the UK has is its voting system. In direct democracy you hear the will of the people. In a system of seats, the system is much more easily rigged in favor of the 3 main parties who are laughing at people really. If nothing changes it is because those parties are not willing to listen. Already the Tories are stalling on leaving the EU and it will take years to set it in motion. Then Labour is off its rocker saying it's Corbyn's fault that the core doesn't like Blairism. All Labour really needs to do is listen and admit a few errors. In the 1980's Labour was against the EU. That Labour would do well today.

Basically I don't see what you are complaining about Rhun as nothing has changed except for the markets wetting the bed a little bit. There are plenty of things people can do to hedge against that, so I have little sympathy there.

You have little sympathy because you do not live in the UK let alone in Wales or one of the regions in which your fantasy world does not exist. The repercussions for education alone are massive and now the front runners to take over running the country are two absolute heartless ignorant fools, Gove and IDS who have already wreaked havoc and destroyed the lives of so many. My kids and grandkids will not have the freedom to go and work in Europe like I did, the students I support will see their chances of gainful employment fade to nothing and everything will be privatized. You will not countenance anything but your own distorted view of a country you left years ago impacting on your clouded view of reality but you are way off he mark here. Clueless.

[Gandalf]

Your children will still be able to live and work overseas, so I do not understand that argument. At the end of the day if you don't want the Tories then don't vote for them. How is being in an undemocratic institution like the EU meant to solve anything? It is incapable of reform. They offer a few trinkets, but that does not justify it.

If people would rally around Corbyn they might stand a chance, but I see he is busy fending off snakes. Get Labour in and forget about the EU. It's an uphill battle because Labour has lost Scotland and people know it's full of snakes. I have sympathy about that, but not about stock markets or the EU. Rather than fantasy it is just reality.

[Britkid]

Your children will still be able to live and work overseas, so I do not understand that argument. At the end of the day if you don't want the Tories then don't vote for them. How is being in an undemocratic institution like the EU meant to solve anything? It is incapable of reform. They offer a few trinkets, but that does not justify it.

If people would rally around Corbyn they might stand a chance, but I see he is busy fending off snakes. Get Labour in and forget about the EU. It's an uphill battle because Labour has lost Scotland and people know it's full of snakes. I have sympathy about that, but not about stock markets or the EU. Rather than fantasy it is just reality.

The EU is far more democratic than the UK. We in the UK do not have a say who governs us in the executive nor do we have any say who is in the upper house. Money is the only way to have influence on this.

The only Democracy the UK offers for free is the chance have a say in who is the representative of 1/650th of the lower house. It is likely that, that representative shall win their election by picking up less than 50% of those who vote for them, and yet that is better than other scenario which sees many seats already resolved before a vote is even given, as it is shown time and time again a hundred seats tops, decide the makeup of the lower house. So you have around 100/650 chance of being relevant to have a 1/60,000 influence in deciding 1/100 of the seats that mould the executive.

So without money the citizen of the UK has no democratic input into the Executive; that is for the Monarch to decide; has no input into the upper house; that is for the Executive to decide; and has on average a 1/39,250,000 influence on the makeup of the lower house...

At least EU elections (for the lower house) are done on proportional representation, thus you do not have to be voting for the seats that are relevant to the executive's makeup.

[Dark Lord Al]

...and do you really think people will be getting their gardens brazillianed on the regular now that your economy is worse than France's and your pound is tanking?

Where are your tradesmen going to be working now?

Looks like I've identified another cunt on Saddos

Not sure why people who didn't vote in the referendum even bother to discuss it.
Maybe they will be happier when Trump gets in .

Why don't you be consistent and tell Brockton to wind his neck in as well then?

Didnt you read? I said I dont know why people who didnt vote want to discuss it. Funnily enough that includes everyone who didnt vote .