I'm just adding to my list
But good call anyway
I'm just adding to my list
But good call anyway
Don't bully fat kids - they've got enough on their plate
But wait...!!!!!
http://www.standard.co.uk/business/anthony-hilton-why-we-may-remain-even-if-we-vote-leave-a3272621.html
I think it unlikely we leave this side of an election.
It is far too complicated to be resolved inside two years.
There is an ambitious Labour MP looking at the situation, and thinking they can go down as great PM, saving the UK and the EU splitting up.
Cameron goes down in history as the UK's worst PM, as he has allowed the UK the chance to leave the EU and by doing so may split the UK. Even Eden was not that bad!
The two things we have got to look forward to in the short/medium term is a bit of inflation as the weak Pound will put our fuel (car/heating) and import prices up. And I do not think many multinationals will risk too much instability, so unemployment will go up and we will probably not see them jobs return no matter what happens.
Last edited by Britkid; 06-26-2016 at 03:37 AM.
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George Foreman
David Cameron's complete cuntishness cannot be underestimated in making this happen. What an absolute tool. He was 100% confident that the country would never vote to leave, but while I may have been harsh with my earlier comment, he is definitely a complete fucking moron.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/nigel-farage-admits-his-bold-brexit-claim-was-mistake
Why is anything going to deteriorate? Hasn't that already happened in recent years? Being a part of the EU has nothing to do with that. It's about self determination at the end of the day. Why people have such a thing for something that looks like the former Soviet Union is baffling. The short term effect on markets is what it is, but unless you are invested in stocks and shares or have a vested interest in exchange rates, then it shouldn't matter too much. I happen to like the exchange rate myself.Britain has a trade deficit with the EU, so they have more to lose. The globe is a much more positive place for the Brits to trade with as Europeans are broke and the UK does much better there.
The problem the UK has is its voting system. In direct democracy you hear the will of the people. In a system of seats, the system is much more easily rigged in favor of the 3 main parties who are laughing at people really. If nothing changes it is because those parties are not willing to listen. Already the Tories are stalling on leaving the EU and it will take years to set it in motion. Then Labour is off its rocker saying it's Corbyn's fault that the core doesn't like Blairism. All Labour really needs to do is listen and admit a few errors. In the 1980's Labour was against the EU. That Labour would do well today.
Basically I don't see what you are complaining about Rhun as nothing has changed except for the markets wetting the bed a little bit. There are plenty of things people can do to hedge against that, so I have little sympathy there.
Inflation from more expensive imports shouldn't be an issue in a country like the UK. It has become far too reliant on an unbalanced system of trade and they should just follow Russia's lead in growing and making more food and making more products. This can be a good thing for the UK. They got lazy relying on cheap imports and cheap labour.
You have little sympathy because you do not live in the UK let alone in Wales or one of the regions in which your fantasy world does not exist. The repercussions for education alone are massive and now the front runners to take over running the country are two absolute heartless ignorant fools, Gove and IDS who have already wreaked havoc and destroyed the lives of so many. My kids and grandkids will not have the freedom to go and work in Europe like I did, the students I support will see their chances of gainful employment fade to nothing and everything will be privatized. You will not countenance anything but your own distorted view of a country you left years ago impacting on your clouded view of reality but you are way off he mark here. Clueless.
Your children will still be able to live and work overseas, so I do not understand that argument. At the end of the day if you don't want the Tories then don't vote for them. How is being in an undemocratic institution like the EU meant to solve anything? It is incapable of reform. They offer a few trinkets, but that does not justify it.
If people would rally around Corbyn they might stand a chance, but I see he is busy fending off snakes. Get Labour in and forget about the EU. It's an uphill battle because Labour has lost Scotland and people know it's full of snakes. I have sympathy about that, but not about stock markets or the EU. Rather than fantasy it is just reality.
The EU is far more democratic than the UK. We in the UK do not have a say who governs us in the executive nor do we have any say who is in the upper house. Money is the only way to have influence on this.
The only Democracy the UK offers for free is the chance have a say in who is the representative of 1/650th of the lower house. It is likely that, that representative shall win their election by picking up less than 50% of those who vote for them, and yet that is better than other scenario which sees many seats already resolved before a vote is even given, as it is shown time and time again a hundred seats tops, decide the makeup of the lower house. So you have around 100/650 chance of being relevant to have a 1/60,000 influence in deciding 1/100 of the seats that mould the executive.
So without money the citizen of the UK has no democratic input into the Executive; that is for the Monarch to decide; has no input into the upper house; that is for the Executive to decide; and has on average a 1/39,250,000 influence on the makeup of the lower house...
At least EU elections (for the lower house) are done on proportional representation, thus you do not have to be voting for the seats that are relevant to the executive's makeup.
"Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it."
George Foreman
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