Wladimir Klitschko is taking Tyson Fury to court over violation of contract

[Primo Carnera]

I blame Wlad and his rematch contracts. He should retire and allow Fury to have made some defences by now instead of holding up the division.

Pretty much what I'm saying Master.
If Wlad walks away it clears the path for fury to fight new IBF champion David Price in a rematch.

If Wlad retired and therefore did not invoke the rematch clause the titles would not have split and cheap holders would not have been champions.

who are cheap holders? are you suggesting Joshua is a "Cheap Holder" of a World Title?

Yes and you know it is true.

with the exception of Wlad, who has Fury beaten that's better than Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin and Brezeale ?
While you're at it , tell me who Wilder has beaten that's better?
Still a cheap holder is he?

And who had Charles Martin and Breazeale beaten?

Breazeale was lucky he was awarded a decision against Fred Kassi who Hughie Fury was toying with till he got cut. Martin was lucky ato be in the right place st the right time when Glazkovs knee went because he didnt do much there either.

Dillian Whyte hasnt done anything above British level yet, in fact he got knocked out in his first try. You are saying they are all good just on association because Joshua must be good because Sky and Hearn tell you so.

Yeah , very good . But none of that answers my questions.

[ross]

For fuck sakes they are both right!

He did have higher than normal levels of nadrolone which is a naturally occuring substance anyway. He didnt have high enough to test positive which means it wasnt a positive test.

Fuck me this is embarrasing watching you cling with all youv got for dear life hoping it will in some way reverse how easily Tyson out maneuvered and out boxed your hero, like some kind of saviour for Klitschkos career

Do you not remember how easy I said it would be? And it was wasnt it. I never said ztyson wasnt going to need some kind of special performance we have never seen. I said these actual words that you lot couldnt see the wood for the trees that what Tyson does well would leave Klitscko standing. It wasnt out of the ordinary, it wasnt Klitschko suddenly getting older. It was Tyson Fury being too good for Wladimir Klitschko

If Tyson had tested positive which he didnt you know full well he wouldnt have got anywhere near a title challenge and pointing out Povetkin proves my point.

Aww honey, I hate to break it to you puddin' pop but no, both of those statements are NOT right.

Now you say "nadrolone which is a naturally occuring [sic] substance anyway." and that is true, it's true just like cannabinoids which are found in marijuana are also found in the human body....naturally. Yet this doesn't mean that smoking pot is not "doing drugs".....do you understand? Well if you don't, oh and I believe you don't hahaha get this Nandrolone is and I quote "ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR ANABOLIC STEROIDS TO EVER BE CREATED" https://www.steroid.com/Nandrolone.php


Tyson Fury is a cheat ross and you are pathetic, but then again we've all known that for quite a while.

You getting more cringe worthy with each post.

If thats what you need to cling to to keep you posting and that little flicker of Klitschko hope alve inside you then so be it. Carry on regardless that Tyson tested negative

It wont change the fact that Tyson beat Klitschko with skill, not brute strength, power or ever ready batteries juiced up to the eyeballs.

You will come to earth with a bump though when you stop deluding yourself and remember this embarassing rubbish your posting.

[Dark Lord Al]

I blame Wlad and his rematch contracts. He should retire and allow Fury to have made some defences by now instead of holding up the division.

Pretty much what I'm saying Master.
If Wlad walks away it clears the path for fury to fight new IBF champion David Price in a rematch.

If Wlad retired and therefore did not invoke the rematch clause the titles would not have split and cheap holders would not have been champions.

who are cheap holders? are you suggesting Joshua is a "Cheap Holder" of a World Title?

Joshua is no longer the IBF belt holder , now the evidence that David Price knocked him down in sparring when Joshua was an amateur , Price has been awarded the title.

[Master]

I blame Wlad and his rematch contracts. He should retire and allow Fury to have made some defences by now instead of holding up the division.

Pretty much what I'm saying Master.
If Wlad walks away it clears the path for fury to fight new IBF champion David Price in a rematch.

If Wlad retired and therefore did not invoke the rematch clause the titles would not have split and cheap holders would not have been champions.

who are cheap holders? are you suggesting Joshua is a "Cheap Holder" of a World Title?

Yes and you know it is true.

with the exception of Wlad, who has Fury beaten that's better than Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin and Brezeale ?
While you're at it , tell me who Wilder has beaten that's better?
Still a cheap holder is he?

Primo your post get dumber. Fury beat the undisputed champion. That is as much as you can do to be the true champion. Stop the AJ and Eddie love.

[Primo Carnera]

I blame Wlad and his rematch contracts. He should retire and allow Fury to have made some defences by now instead of holding up the division.

Pretty much what I'm saying Master.
If Wlad walks away it clears the path for fury to fight new IBF champion David Price in a rematch.

If Wlad retired and therefore did not invoke the rematch clause the titles would not have split and cheap holders would not have been champions.

who are cheap holders? are you suggesting Joshua is a "Cheap Holder" of a World Title?

Yes and you know it is true.

with the exception of Wlad, who has Fury beaten that's better than Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin and Brezeale ?
While you're at it , tell me who Wilder has beaten that's better?
Still a cheap holder is he?

Primo your post get dumber. Fury beat the undisputed champion. That is as much as you can do to be the true champion. Stop the AJ and Eddie love.

Yep, and you, like Ross didn't answer the question.
Here's another one. How many current HW's at this moment in time beat Joshua? Name them please.
It's not that I think AJ is the greatest or anything like that, he's got his faults, but the FACT is that there isn't much out there, and consequently he deserves to be where he is.

[Master]

I do not care how many fighters I think can beat the hype machine that Sky have created. AJ is a paper champion until he beats Fury. AJ is just a contender.

[Primo Carnera]

I do not care how many fighters I think can beat the hype machine that Sky have created. AJ is a paper champion until he beats Fury. AJ is just a contender.

Master , your hypocrisy is embarrassing. AJ is a paper champion because he hasn't fought Fury, yet people like BJS, Lee, Ricky Burns , and other Brits that you've swallowed bullshit sandwiches about are or have been worthy Champions!!!
And answer the question about how many can beat AJ, because if the answer is not many, if any, then he is not a hype machine.
Stop embarrassing yourself mate.

[ross]

Who could beat Joshua?

Potentially all of them.

Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Haye, Ortiz.

All could beat him realistically.

[nuggetdotcom]

Who could beat Joshua?

Potentially all of them.

Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Haye, Ortiz.

All could beat him realistically.

Fuck me I agree with Ross!

The first two could do a smother fest, the remainder could spark him in one of his hesitant moments. If Eddie can get to the other sanctioning bodies then he holds the Aces if Joshua improves through a couple of warm up 'opponents'.

[Primo Carnera]

Who could beat Joshua?

Potentially all of them.

Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Haye, Ortiz.

All could beat him realistically.

Fuck me I agree with Ross!

The first two could do a smother fest, the remainder could spark him in one of his hesitant moments. If Eddie can get to the other sanctioning bodies then he holds the Aces if Joshua improves through a couple of warm up 'opponents'.

It's all well and good saying "potentially ", but potentially he could beat them all, and potentially they could all beat Fury as well.
What I'm saying is that he's done as much as anyone opponent wise except of course Wlad.

[nuggetdotcom]

Who could beat Joshua?

Potentially all of them.

Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Haye, Ortiz.

All could beat him realistically.

Fuck me I agree with Ross!

The first two could do a smother fest, the remainder could spark him in one of his hesitant moments. If Eddie can get to the other sanctioning bodies then he holds the Aces if Joshua improves through a couple of warm up 'opponents'.

It's all well and good saying "potentially ", but potentially he could beat them all, and potentially they could all beat Fury as well.
What I'm saying is that he's done as much as anyone opponent wise except of course Wlad.

You are of course right, a boxer can do no more than beat all his opponents, the fact that he still gets trashed by supporters of other unbeaten boxers is all part of lifes rich tapestry. Of the unbeaten ones I think its 50/50 AJ Wilder, either of those beat Tyson. Furys problem is now getting a fight, he is in danger of getting frozen out, as I say Eddie is calling the shots.

[Memphis]

Anyone? Any ideas how its possible for Fury to be in breach/violation of contract at this point in time?

Surely money and testing would have been outlined in the contract they have signed? Unless he misses a contractually agreed testing date he's good right.

Unless the contract states you cant ask for any changes to the financial arrangements Fury is welcome to say he wants whatever he likes isnt he? He puts any requests forward to a lawyer, who presents them to a lawyer for Wlad, who presents them to Wlad, Wlad says get fucked.

Something dodgy going on here.

[ross]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

[Primo Carnera]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

Mate, If Fury v Wlad doesn't happen , I'd be more concerned about who Tyson fights next rather than who AJ fights if I were you.

[ross]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

Mate, If Fury v Wlad doesn't happen , I'd be more concerned about who Tyson fights next rather than who AJ fights if I were you.

Why would I be concerned? Tyson will beat whoever it is

Maybe he could go for Wilder and Joshuas murderers row of defences?