Wladimir Klitschko is taking Tyson Fury to court over violation of contract

[Primo Carnera]

Who could beat Joshua?

Potentially all of them.

Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Haye, Ortiz.

All could beat him realistically.

Fuck me I agree with Ross!

The first two could do a smother fest, the remainder could spark him in one of his hesitant moments. If Eddie can get to the other sanctioning bodies then he holds the Aces if Joshua improves through a couple of warm up 'opponents'.

It's all well and good saying "potentially ", but potentially he could beat them all, and potentially they could all beat Fury as well.
What I'm saying is that he's done as much as anyone opponent wise except of course Wlad.

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Who could beat Joshua?

Potentially all of them.

Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Haye, Ortiz.

All could beat him realistically.

Fuck me I agree with Ross!

The first two could do a smother fest, the remainder could spark him in one of his hesitant moments. If Eddie can get to the other sanctioning bodies then he holds the Aces if Joshua improves through a couple of warm up 'opponents'.

It's all well and good saying "potentially ", but potentially he could beat them all, and potentially they could all beat Fury as well.
What I'm saying is that he's done as much as anyone opponent wise except of course Wlad.

You are of course right, a boxer can do no more than beat all his opponents, the fact that he still gets trashed by supporters of other unbeaten boxers is all part of lifes rich tapestry. Of the unbeaten ones I think its 50/50 AJ Wilder, either of those beat Tyson. Furys problem is now getting a fight, he is in danger of getting frozen out, as I say Eddie is calling the shots.

[Memphis]

Anyone? Any ideas how its possible for Fury to be in breach/violation of contract at this point in time?

Surely money and testing would have been outlined in the contract they have signed? Unless he misses a contractually agreed testing date he's good right.

Unless the contract states you cant ask for any changes to the financial arrangements Fury is welcome to say he wants whatever he likes isnt he? He puts any requests forward to a lawyer, who presents them to a lawyer for Wlad, who presents them to Wlad, Wlad says get fucked.

Something dodgy going on here.

[ross]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

[Primo Carnera]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

Mate, If Fury v Wlad doesn't happen , I'd be more concerned about who Tyson fights next rather than who AJ fights if I were you.

[ross]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

Mate, If Fury v Wlad doesn't happen , I'd be more concerned about who Tyson fights next rather than who AJ fights if I were you.

Why would I be concerned? Tyson will beat whoever it is

Maybe he could go for Wilder and Joshuas murderers row of defences?

[Primo Carnera]

I think what iv read was that the arena in Dusseldorf was said to be full which is 55,000 but Boente is saying they only had 36,000. So Tyson must have been getting paid based on the attendance and they are trying to short change him?

Maybe this is why they wanted the rematch in the UK so the attendance can be checked?

All boils down to Wlad not really wanting the fight.

We all know Hearn and Boente will have been discussing a potential Joshua v Klitschko fight. I couldnt see that fight happening though because it would mean having to pay theough the nose for Klitschko. Theres still a few undefeated useless americans that will take a paycheck yet.

Mate, If Fury v Wlad doesn't happen , I'd be more concerned about who Tyson fights next rather than who AJ fights if I were you.

Why would I be concerned? Tyson will beat whoever it is

Maybe he could go for Wilder and Joshuas murderers row of defences?

I'm not saying it from a point of view of whether he wins or not, that's another debate altogether. I'm saying it from an inactivity, relevance and Boxing politics point of view.
he hasn't fought for 12 months. if the Wlad fight doesn't go ahead, it'll be another 4-6 months before he fights , unless he has a "stay busy" tomato can which will be meaningless and not financially attractive. He won't be fighting AJ for at least a year , I think we can agree on that, and even if he did get the chance, he wouldn't want to have 12-18 months of ring rust going into it. The same applies to Wilder, add to that Wilder is injured and wouldn't go straight into a unification.
if Tyson is 18 months between fights, people (general public, not you) will have forgotten what he did against Wlad. add to that , during this time , AJ is bowling guys over , building up his profile.
Secretly Tyson will be frustrated that he's not getting some of the gravy train, (and I don't blame him, so would I be!)
Finally, whether we like it or not, the powers that be (Governing bodies , promoters , etc. ) would love nothing more than to fuck Tyson around a bit and "Put him in his place".
I'm not saying this to have a pop, far from it. I actually feel that Fury deserves to make some serious cash , but sometimes the World's not fair.