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    Default Re: Israel has suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council countries

    If your reasoning for U.S. support of Israel stems from Israel being a close ally of the U.S., which I understand involves many areas including some like counter-terrorism, then ok... I can live with that. But when you add the circumstances around the founding of Israel by U.N. resolution, you go into the realm of "depends who you hear it from." Neither of us were there, so we all depend on literature on the subject, written by someone who may or may not have an agenda. As hard as it may be, it's up to us to try and separate the facts from the propaganda. In a previous post I pointed out the blatant unfairness of the Resolution, where more than half of Palestinian land was handed over to the Jewish state. This, regardless of the fact that Palestinians represented a vast majority of the population. "Either/Or". It depends who writes it and who reads it. There are credible journalists out there who favor the Israeli side, just as there are credible, reputable journalists out there who favor the Palestinian side. Regardless, to just surmise that the Arabs as a whole have this inborn hatred of the Israelis for no reason at all, seems a bit naive to me. Just out of the blue, the Palestinians began this hatred of Israel. I don't buy that. When Palestinians fight, they fight dirty... yes. They fire rockets from school yards, and I as well as most of the world find that deplorable. But it doesn't make me blindly support Israel in every issue that comes up. You said the Palestinians wanted the obliteration of Israel. I've read where the first PM of Israel wanted the same thing for the Palestinians. Six of one... half a dozen of the other. Again, I seriously doubt Israel is blameless in this whole issue, and they've shown they can be pretty aggressive and violent in their own right. I just think that the U.S. should not be in the business of creating enemies. There's enough of those to go around. When the U.S. meddles in other countries' conflicts and affairs, they're inviting even more enemies.

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    Jews were buying land from Palestinians for years prior to the founding of Israel. The Jews would buy worthless land and turn it into olive gardens. The Palestinians would then bitch and say that lands good now I want it back. This same thing was repeated ad infinitum in the area. Only later would Israel be formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Jews were buying land from Palestinians for years prior to the founding of Israel. The Jews would buy worthless land and turn it into olive gardens. The Palestinians would then bitch and say that lands good now I want it back. This same thing was repeated ad infinitum in the area. Only later would Israel be formed.


    Well then.... I guess that does it right there don't it.


    Except that I've read that the Arabs owned about 85 percent of the land in Palestine around the time of Israel's creation, as opposed to less than 10 percent ownership by Jews. So again, we can present all these things as factual, but the point remains that a lot of what we read has been written with a slant built into it.

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    Default Re: Israel has suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council countries

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Jews were buying land from Palestinians for years prior to the founding of Israel. The Jews would buy worthless land and turn it into olive gardens. The Palestinians would then bitch and say that lands good now I want it back. This same thing was repeated ad infinitum in the area. Only later would Israel be formed.


    Well then.... I guess that does it right there don't it.


    Except that I've read that the Arabs owned about 85 percent of the land in Palestine around the time of Israel's creation, as opposed to less than 10 percent ownership by Jews. So again, we can present all these things as factual, but the point remains that a lot of what we read has been written with a slant built into it.
    Actually there is no Palestine it was part of Jordan. I guess Jordan just dropped it like a hot potato

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    Default Re: Israel has suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council countries

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Jews were buying land from Palestinians for years prior to the founding of Israel. The Jews would buy worthless land and turn it into olive gardens. The Palestinians would then bitch and say that lands good now I want it back. This same thing was repeated ad infinitum in the area. Only later would Israel be formed.


    Well then.... I guess that does it right there don't it.


    Except that I've read that the Arabs owned about 85 percent of the land in Palestine around the time of Israel's creation, as opposed to less than 10 percent ownership by Jews. So again, we can present all these things as factual, but the point remains that a lot of what we read has been written with a slant built into it.
    Actually there is no Palestine it was part of Jordan. I guess Jordan just dropped it like a hot potato
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