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    Default Re: So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    The problem is we need more than a wall. You can build a 30 foot wall and they'll get a 30 foot ladder. If it's not guarded, they'll get over.

    We need to make more personnel and we need to make it harder for illegals to stay here once they cross the border. Impose huge fines on those hiring illegals, provide financial incentives for turning in illegals, etc.

    But I love the direction Trump is going in. So many politicians make promises and never even try to keep them. Thus far, Donald is showing he is a man of action and I REALLY hope he continues on course.
    Well, it's not because you do what you said you would that it's a great thing, especially when the promises are illegal, go against sex equality or are straight down discriminatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    The problem is we need more than a wall. You can build a 30 foot wall and they'll get a 30 foot ladder. If it's not guarded, they'll get over.

    We need to make more personnel and we need to make it harder for illegals to stay here once they cross the border. Impose huge fines on those hiring illegals, provide financial incentives for turning in illegals, etc.

    But I love the direction Trump is going in. So many politicians make promises and never even try to keep them. Thus far, Donald is showing he is a man of action and I REALLY hope he continues on course.
    Well, it's not because you do what you said you would that it's a great thing, especially when the promises are illegal, go against sex equality or are straight down discriminatory.
    Sex equality? I thought to even define sex is discrimination. It up to the individual not society to determine sex anything else is like a sick artificial label

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    Default Re: So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    The problem is we need more than a wall. You can build a 30 foot wall and they'll get a 30 foot ladder. If it's not guarded, they'll get over.

    We need to make more personnel and we need to make it harder for illegals to stay here once they cross the border. Impose huge fines on those hiring illegals, provide financial incentives for turning in illegals, etc.

    But I love the direction Trump is going in. So many politicians make promises and never even try to keep them. Thus far, Donald is showing he is a man of action and I REALLY hope he continues on course.
    Well, it's not because you do what you said you would that it's a great thing, especially when the promises are illegal, go against sex equality or are straight down discriminatory.
    Trump is fully behind the gays, he was doing interviews in the Advocate 20 years ago talking about how he supported gay rights and marriage. Meanwhile up until a few years ago Obama and Hillary were both steadfast against gay marriage.

    Big changes are tough for all involved and the transition period can be intense but ultimately I think our nation is taking great steps.

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    Default Re: So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

    On Iran:


    Trump is being very "blustery" in his rhetoric aimed at Iran. News analysts say he's "boxing himself in", meaning he's not leaving much room for responses after that. It's not a bad point to make. Trump's just coming into the Presidency. Couldn't he be better served to warn Iran on a less ratcheted tone... and save the outright threats for when there's no other recourse? Also... isn't it true that Trump would totally benefit from the total support of European allies against Iran? Let's be real. Iran poses substantially more of a threat to Europe than it does the U.S. So having Trump "leapfrog" European countries and threatening Iran is a bit misplaced. Gather the support... and then club Iran over the head.

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    Default Re: So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

    We've whipped Iran's ass before and we can do it again if they feel froggy and want to jump


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    No man the gloves are off. We've been hogtied for the past eight years would have pussy president. The gloves are off now Tito the gloves are off now. Why should we treat you wrong with kid gloves? I am glad he's leaving no room for negotiation. Cut to the chase. You do what we say you pieces of garbage or rerun or we will wipe you off the map. That's the way to get things done bro. Political correctness is out. This is a new era and everybody better realize it quick. Time to get stuff done and not being nice. I know it's hard for people to get their heads around after the last eight years of the apology fast and the brown nosing Fist and the ass-kissing fist that Obama let us on. But times have changed. Get ready bro you'll see the way we do it now

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    Default Re: So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

    Okey-dokey

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Okey-dokey
    Tito the time for jabbing is over, we must now land the Trinidad left hook

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    Default Re: So here is the real deal with Trump's actions and decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    On Iran:


    Trump is being very "blustery" in his rhetoric aimed at Iran. News analysts say he's "boxing himself in", meaning he's not leaving much room for responses after that. It's not a bad point to make. Trump's just coming into the Presidency. Couldn't he be better served to warn Iran on a less ratcheted tone... and save the outright threats for when there's no other recourse? Also... isn't it true that Trump would totally benefit from the total support of European allies against Iran? Let's be real. Iran poses substantially more of a threat to Europe than it does the U.S. So having Trump "leapfrog" European countries and threatening Iran is a bit misplaced. Gather the support... and then club Iran over the head.
    If "mistakenly" releasing 10 yr old propaganda footage and claim it as intelligence gained from your first military strike in Yemen is an indicator, Trump is well on his way to making Bush and Obama look like truth telling pacifist. Someone needs to take his phone and shove it where the sun doesn't shine ffs. Trump has no idea what he is doing by babbling on and talking empty shat. This isn't a western or make believe and the Republican congress is already and will continue..to a point..to clean up his missteps and gradually turn outward. And eventually war within itself in disagreement and stagnate. Mattis and the adults in the room will step up behind the scenes and pull him into the woodshed..or walk..if he keeps escalating a military showdown. Militarily it's not about Iran, it's boarders, it's about the thousands of splinters it will unleash and activate. Then again I'm growing less convinced that it's not exactly what he and that Rudolph nosed boulder headed Bannon want.

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