The Brexit Thread

[Gandalf]

The argument that you will need people from abroad to do the work needed is an argument that I really do not understand. British people can do most of the work needed to maintain a healthy and vibrant country. Asides from language teachers or cooks or things like that I am not sure who else you would need. Make the courses, train up the workers and just get on with it. Britain needs a bit more self confidence, all these doubts about being able to function with only British nurses etc. There are no British people working in hotels. They should at least have a quota of British staff. It is inverse xenophobia.

A lot of British people do not take those jobs in hotels/nursing homes etc because they see it beneath them.

Well they shouldn't because it isn't beneath them. They are good jobs and certainly in the case of hotels and the costs there is no reason not to pay well and care is important and should be paid well too. See, that is where society is wrong. Hundreds of thousands to pointless directors and not enough to the ground.

[Gandalf]

My issue with foreign workers in hotels is more simple than that, Beanz. When I go to Japan it is always Japanese people in the hotel or beyond. I want to be in Japan, so I want to experience Japan. Same here, if I go to a motel it's expected that the people working will be locals. After years in pristine isolation, you go to England and you can't find any English people working anywhere. The hotels, the shops. It's a guy in the shop with a name tag 'Abdul' or something and I just don't know why it isn't a friendly old lady called Mavis. I've nothing against Abdul. I'm sure he is very nice, but I want to hear Mavis and her accent. I don't get to interact with English people very much. You walk around London and you swear that it is the Twilight Zone. It's very strange to see.

There is no reason why English kids cannot be computer programmers, care workers, all of these things. Kids in the UK need better guidance. I wish I had more guidance and some kind of role model. I ended up looking up to William Burroughs and it just gets you in trouble. Out here you have outsiders like me doing my thing and it means I never

In terms of me. I do work that is expected of me and it means nobody is going to be short changed. If I was teaching a Japanese class I am sure

[Gandalf]

My issue with foreign workers in hotels is more simple than that, Beanz. When I go to Japan it is always Japanese people in the hotel or beyond. I want to be in Japan, so I want to experience Japan. Same here, if I go to a motel it's expected that the people working will be locals. After years in pristine isolation, you go to England and you can't find any English people working anywhere. The hotels, the shops. It's a guy in the shop with a name tag 'Abdul' or something and I just don't know why it isn't a friendly old lady called Mavis. I've nothing against Abdul. I'm sure he is very nice, but I want to hear Mavis and her accent. I don't get to interact with English people very much. You walk around London and you swear that it is the Twilight Zone. It's very strange to see.

There is no reason why English kids cannot be computer programmers, care workers, all of these things. Kids in the UK need better guidance. I wish I had more guidance and some kind of role model. I ended up looking up to William Burroughs and it just gets you in trouble. I should have studied medicine or something useful. Out here you have outsiders like me doing my thing and I am expected to do it. Or else you have factory workers doing their thing. We're both on the periphery. I kind of like it that way. I'm not against foreign people doing stuff but the UK is a bit weird. Have a Brit driving the taxis for once.