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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

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    Have Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe and Wade ever been rated no.1 in their division and top 10 P4P by The Ring? That's a no. Only one of them has ever won a "world" title.

    The only thing they have on Brook is being naturally bigger. And the "middleweight" Brook would beat the shit out of three and school the other two.
    Middleweight Brook would do no such thing, everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    Everyone of them would beat Brook? Did they all do better than "middleweight" Brook against Golovkin too?

    Geale, Rubio and Wade were knocked out inside 3 rounds. Monroe survived for 6 rounds, suffering three knockdowns and never won a round.

    Brook was level 2-2 with Golovkin on two judges scorecards and 3-1 down on the other. He never hit the deck, quit or went close to being sparked, he lost through an injury.
    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

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    Have Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe and Wade ever been rated no.1 in their division and top 10 P4P by The Ring? That's a no. Only one of them has ever won a "world" title.

    The only thing they have on Brook is being naturally bigger. And the "middleweight" Brook would beat the shit out of three and school the other two.
    Middleweight Brook would do no such thing, everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    Everyone of them would beat Brook? Did they all do better than "middleweight" Brook against Golovkin too?

    Geale, Rubio and Wade were knocked out inside 3 rounds. Monroe survived for 6 rounds, suffering three knockdowns and never won a round.

    Brook was level 2-2 with Golovkin on two judges scorecards and 3-1 down on the other. He never hit the deck, quit or went close to being sparked, he lost through an injury.
    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.


    Totally agree, @Master . People tend to get carried away with a good performance when they want to see that fighter succeed. I like Brook, don't get me wrong. But do people really think GGG didn't fight a different type of fight knowing full well that it was only a matter of time, and that Brook couldn't hurt him? Do they think he would've allowed himself to get hit that many times had Brook been more of a danger? C'mon. Fighters adjust their styles according to what's in front of them. GGG stalked down Brook and did what everybody and their mother knew he was going to do. Kudos to Brook for lasting as long as he did.

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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Have Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe and Wade ever been rated no.1 in their division and top 10 P4P by The Ring? That's a no. Only one of them has ever won a "world" title.

    The only thing they have on Brook is being naturally bigger. And the "middleweight" Brook would beat the shit out of three and school the other two.
    Middleweight Brook would do no such thing, everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    Everyone of them would beat Brook? Did they all do better than "middleweight" Brook against Golovkin too?

    Geale, Rubio and Wade were knocked out inside 3 rounds. Monroe survived for 6 rounds, suffering three knockdowns and never won a round.

    Brook was level 2-2 with Golovkin on two judges scorecards and 3-1 down on the other. He never hit the deck, quit or went close to being sparked, he lost through an injury.
    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.
    What's that got to do with anything?

    I couldn't give a flying fuck what you think about what happened in the Brook-GGG fight.

    However, anyone that thinks GGG let Brook hit him on purpose is a div. And even if the punches didn't have an effect (claimed by idiots that weren't taking them - lol, couldn't make it up) they cost him two rounds on the judges cards. That's two rounds MORE than the five middleweights you mentioned could manage to win between them.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Have Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe and Wade ever been rated no.1 in their division and top 10 P4P by The Ring? That's a no. Only one of them has ever won a "world" title.

    The only thing they have on Brook is being naturally bigger. And the "middleweight" Brook would beat the shit out of three and school the other two.
    Middleweight Brook would do no such thing, everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    Everyone of them would beat Brook? Did they all do better than "middleweight" Brook against Golovkin too?

    Geale, Rubio and Wade were knocked out inside 3 rounds. Monroe survived for 6 rounds, suffering three knockdowns and never won a round.

    Brook was level 2-2 with Golovkin on two judges scorecards and 3-1 down on the other. He never hit the deck, quit or went close to being sparked, he lost through an injury.
    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.
    What's that got to do with anything?

    I couldn't give a flying fuck what you think about what happened in the Brook-GGG fight.

    However, anyone that thinks GGG let Brook hit him on purpose is a div. And even if the punches didn't have an effect (claimed by idiots that weren't taking them - lol, couldn't make it up) they cost him two rounds on the judges cards. That's two rounds MORE than the five middleweights you mentioned could manage to win between them.
    So now you are comparing Brook to the great welterweights that challenged middleweights when you conveniently forgeting the fact that he only got his shot at GGG because Eubank Jnr turned it down and they had no decent opponent left.

    Triple G even said that Brook should stay at welterweight because his punches had no effect. I do not need to take them when I can see GGG smiling at Brook's effort.

    Remind me again what weight Brook is campaigning in his next fight?
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

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    Have Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe and Wade ever been rated no.1 in their division and top 10 P4P by The Ring? That's a no. Only one of them has ever won a "world" title.

    The only thing they have on Brook is being naturally bigger. And the "middleweight" Brook would beat the shit out of three and school the other two.
    Middleweight Brook would do no such thing, everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    Everyone of them would beat Brook? Did they all do better than "middleweight" Brook against Golovkin too?

    Geale, Rubio and Wade were knocked out inside 3 rounds. Monroe survived for 6 rounds, suffering three knockdowns and never won a round.

    Brook was level 2-2 with Golovkin on two judges scorecards and 3-1 down on the other. He never hit the deck, quit or went close to being sparked, he lost through an injury.
    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.
    What's that got to do with anything?

    I couldn't give a flying fuck what you think about what happened in the Brook-GGG fight.

    However, anyone that thinks GGG let Brook hit him on purpose is a div. And even if the punches didn't have an effect (claimed by idiots that weren't taking them - lol, couldn't make it up) they cost him two rounds on the judges cards. That's two rounds MORE than the five middleweights you mentioned could manage to win between them.
    So now you are comparing Brook to the great welterweights that challenged middleweights when you conveniently forgeting the fact that he only got his shot at GGG because Eubank Jnr turned it down and they had no decent opponent left.

    Triple G even said that Brook should stay at welterweight because his punches had no effect. I do not need to take them when I can see GGG smiling at Brook's effort.

    Remind me again what weight Brook is campaigning in his next fight?
    What are you babbling about now? Eubank Jr? Great welterweights? Brook's next fight is at welterweight?

    So what!?! None of that has anything to do with whether or not Brook was a better opponent than the middleweights you mentioned.

    Brook did better than them. Fact. Circumstances are irrelevant. Fact. I don't care what you think about Brook. Fact.
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    Default Re: Vasyl Lomachenko is P4P #1

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Have Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe and Wade ever been rated no.1 in their division and top 10 P4P by The Ring? That's a no. Only one of them has ever won a "world" title.

    The only thing they have on Brook is being naturally bigger. And the "middleweight" Brook would beat the shit out of three and school the other two.
    Middleweight Brook would do no such thing, everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    Everyone of them would beat Brook? Did they all do better than "middleweight" Brook against Golovkin too?

    Geale, Rubio and Wade were knocked out inside 3 rounds. Monroe survived for 6 rounds, suffering three knockdowns and never won a round.

    Brook was level 2-2 with Golovkin on two judges scorecards and 3-1 down on the other. He never hit the deck, quit or went close to being sparked, he lost through an injury.
    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.
    What's that got to do with anything?

    I couldn't give a flying fuck what you think about what happened in the Brook-GGG fight.

    However, anyone that thinks GGG let Brook hit him on purpose is a div. And even if the punches didn't have an effect (claimed by idiots that weren't taking them - lol, couldn't make it up) they cost him two rounds on the judges cards. That's two rounds MORE than the five middleweights you mentioned could manage to win between them.
    So now you are comparing Brook to the great welterweights that challenged middleweights when you conveniently forgeting the fact that he only got his shot at GGG because Eubank Jnr turned it down and they had no decent opponent left.

    Triple G even said that Brook should stay at welterweight because his punches had no effect. I do not need to take them when I can see GGG smiling at Brook's effort.

    Remind me again what weight Brook is campaigning in his next fight?
    What are you babbling about now? Eubank Jr? Great welterweights? Brook's next fight is at welterweight?

    So what!?! None of that has anything to do with whether or not Brook was a better opponent than the middleweights you mentioned.

    Brook did better than them. Fact. Circumstances are irrelevant. Fact. I don't care what you think about Brook. Fact.
    Are you still on this?

    Everything I have stated are relevant facts as to why Brook is not better than the middleweights GGG has faced.

    The circumstances are relevant irrespective of what I think about Brook. Size matters whether you like it or not.
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    @Master - let me help you understand what answering a question means.

    Quote 1 is your claim that the middleweights - Geale, Rubio, Wade, Murray and Monroe are better names than Brook.

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    Geale, Rubio, Murray, Monroe or Wade are better names for GGG than Brook.
    Quote 2 is your claim that they would all beat Brook.

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    everyone of those middleweights would have beaten Brook. That is the reason he fights at welterweight.
    I then asked you to explain WHY/HOW Brook did BETTER against Golovkin than the names listed. To which you replied in quotes 3, 4 and 5

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    That was because GGG rattled him early in the first round and played with him even taking unnecessary punches because they had little affect on him.
    What's this have to do with the question asked?

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    So now you are comparing Brook to the great welterweights that challenged middleweights when you conveniently forgeting the fact that he only got his shot at GGG because Eubank Jnr turned it down and they had no decent opponent left.

    Triple G even said that Brook should stay at welterweight because his punches had no effect. I do not need to take them when I can see GGG smiling at Brook's effort. Remind me again what weight Brook is campaigning in his next fight?
    What's this have to do with the question asked?

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    Everything I have stated are relevant facts as to why Brook is not better than the middleweights GGG has faced
    .

    Where? Where have you given a single relevant fact? Where have you explained that the middleweights are better than Brook? Please show me so I can consider your answer. Thanks.
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