Floyd vs Prince Naz

[Fenster]

Well at least I offer something different, even if tongue in cheek.

Naz ducked Marquez will forever be the gospel among boxing fans because he was the WBO manadtory, however, it's a bona-fide fact that Marquez turned down the Naz fight. This is completely ignored though as it doesn't suit the narrative.

The very same fans today that criticise fighters for not facing the best, unifying belts, clearing out divisions, would have criticised Naz back then for facing Marquez. Anyone that "knew" Marquez was an all-time great before he even won a "world" title and was stinking the joint out "losing" to Freddy Norwood is talking bollocks.

[erics44]

another prime example of a mayweather ducking

we'll never know who would have won because there was too much risk of mayweather losing

doesn't that say it all?

[Primo Carnera]

another prime example of a mayweather ducking

we'll never know who would have won because there was too much risk of mayweather losing

doesn't that say it all?

So Floyd ducked Naz now did he? not how I remember it, I've got to say.
From what I remember , And correct me if I'm wrong, But Floyd wanted Naz, . Naz was Featherweight , Floyd was a Lightweight , which is a 4 Lb difference. Floyd offered to come down 2 Lbs if Naz came up 2 Lbs. Warren said no. Floyd was a young brash up and comer and Warren was protecting the Crown Jewels.
If I'm wrong , I'm happy to be corrected.

[Master]

9 stones (126lb) is the featherweight limit and 9 stone 9lb (135lb) is the lightweight limit.

[X]

In the period of time that their careers intersected, they were on completely different trajectories.

Naz started off as a freak ..... he had unbelievable reflexes, confidence, he genuinely liked to hurt people, and he had eye opening power.

By the time that Floyd was on the scene, he was parting company with the trainers who created him, was shirking training and his reflexes had begun to deteriorate (and once that happened, he didn't have the ingrained technique to get away with it). He was also, in my view, fighting well above the weight he should have been.

Later on, Floyd was a true master boxer with superb technique, great ring generalship and a formidable array of weapons at his disposal. Early on though, he was unproven and he left himself much more open to being countered as he was much more aggressive.

If they had fought each other AT THAT time, I think Floyd would have prevailed. It wouldn't have been an easy fight, but he would be a lot bigger than Naz and at some point The Prince would have found his power wouldn't carry up. There would be a fair bit of risk to Floyd at this stage, but he was a hungry guy on the way up then. I think he was just better schooled and trained than Naseem was.

If you picked a hypothetical matchup between the two, based on them at their respective peaks, then there is no contest for me. Mayweather dominates, defuses Naz and makes him look stupid for twelve rather boring rounds,

[Primo Carnera]

9 stones (126lb) is the featherweight limit and 9 stone 9lb (135lb) is the lightweight limit.

I meant Jr. Lightweight clever bollocks! 😉

[Master]

9 stones (126lb) is the featherweight limit and 9 stone 9lb (135lb) is the lightweight limit.

I meant Jr. Lightweight clever bollocks! 😉

You never wrote that numb nuts.

[erics44]

another prime example of a mayweather ducking

we'll never know who would have won because there was too much risk of mayweather losing

doesn't that say it all?

So Floyd ducked Naz now did he? not how I remember it, I've got to say.
From what I remember , And correct me if I'm wrong, But Floyd wanted Naz, . Naz was Featherweight , Floyd was a Lightweight , which is a 4 Lb difference. Floyd offered to come down 2 Lbs if Naz came up 2 Lbs. Warren said no. Floyd was a young brash up and comer and Warren was protecting the Crown Jewels.
If I'm wrong , I'm happy to be corrected.

remember it as you will

suppose it was a similar reason Floyd never fought Mosley when mosley was competitive or why the Floyd v Pac fight was far too late

[imp]

another prime example of a mayweather ducking

we'll never know who would have won because there was too much risk of mayweather losing

doesn't that say it all?

Floyd ducked Duran as well.

[Primo Carnera]

another prime example of a mayweather ducking

we'll never know who would have won because there was too much risk of mayweather losing

doesn't that say it all?

Floyd ducked Duran as well.

Yeah, bad style match up for Floyd! 😂
Apparently both Sugar Rays wanted a 3 way tournament to see who the ATG was, but Floyd turned them down because he insisted on being the "A" side!

[Master]

another prime example of a mayweather ducking

we'll never know who would have won because there was too much risk of mayweather losing

doesn't that say it all?

Floyd ducked Duran as well.

Yeah, bad style match up for Floyd! 😂
Apparently both Sugar Rays wanted a 3 way tournament to see who the ATG was, but Floyd turned them down because he insisted on being the "A" side!

Yes I could believe that.

[Primo Carnera]

Yeah, makes total sense. Floyd is gonna wait for Manny to get old even though he's 2 years older than Manny!!
Come on Eric, hate is ok, we all have it, but don't let it change the historic facts.
I'm not even saying Naz avoided or ducked Floyd. I'm pretty confident he would've fought him, Naz didn't fear anyone. What I'm saying is that Warren didn't want it in a month of Sundays. High risk, low reward, and nobody can deny that Warren has a long history of protecting his top fighters and their records. Calzaghe springs to mind, and many others.
Mate, sometimes it's good for the soul to admit you're wrong about something . 😉😂

[Master]

Yeah, makes total sense. Floyd is gonna wait for Manny to get old even though he's 2 years older than Manny!!
Come on Eric, hate is ok, we all have it, but don't let it change the historic facts.
I'm not even saying Naz avoided or ducked Floyd. I'm pretty confident he would've fought him, Naz didn't fear anyone. What I'm saying is that Warren didn't want it in a month of Sundays. High risk, low reward, and nobody can deny that Warren has a long history of protecting his top fighters and their records. Calzaghe springs to mind, and many others.
Mate, sometimes it's good for the soul to admit you're wrong about something . 😉😂

Yes, you should try it.

[erics44]

Yeah, makes total sense. Floyd is gonna wait for Manny to get old even though he's 2 years older than Manny!!
Come on Eric, hate is ok, we all have it, but don't let it change the historic facts.
I'm not even saying Naz avoided or ducked Floyd. I'm pretty confident he would've fought him, Naz didn't fear anyone. What I'm saying is that Warren didn't want it in a month of Sundays. High risk, low reward, and nobody can deny that Warren has a long history of protecting his top fighters and their records. Calzaghe springs to mind, and many others.
Mate, sometimes it's good for the soul to admit you're wrong about something . 😉😂

you don't need to play the hate card, I don't hate, i'm not arsed

and manny would fight any one at any time, so then im not sure why the fight of the century didn't happen 5 years earlier

[Primo Carnera]

Well at least I offer something different, even if tongue in cheek.

Naz ducked Marquez will forever be the gospel among boxing fans because he was the WBO manadtory, however, it's a bona-fide fact that Marquez turned down the Naz fight. This is completely ignored though as it doesn't suit the narrative.

The very same fans today that criticise fighters for not facing the best, unifying belts, clearing out divisions, would have criticised Naz back then for facing Marquez. Anyone that "knew" Marquez was an all-time great before he even won a "world" title and was stinking the joint out "losing" to Freddy Norwood is talking bollocks.

Understand where you're coming from, but the Marquez point , although I'm sure is valid wasn't the case in point it was about Floyd.