Choco-Srisaket II/Inoue-Nieves/Cuadras-Estrada - Sept 9 Great Card!!!

[KickMuck]

Inoue will annihilate Srisaket, he's far to open/easy to hit, he'll have no chance walking past Inoue's monster left hand jab/hook and if he does he'll be getting chinned with right hands he never saw coming.

Nobody in this division is taking flush shots off Inoue.

I think you underestimate Wang. He is a pressure fighter that will be too much for Inoue. Inoue doesn't move his head well coming in. Wangek will stand his ground and force the jap to use plan b.

[Fenster]

Inoue will annihilate Srisaket, he's far to open/easy to hit, he'll have no chance walking past Inoue's monster left hand jab/hook and if he does he'll be getting chinned with right hands he never saw coming.

Nobody in this division is taking flush shots off Inoue.

I think you underestimate Wang. He is a pressure fighter that will be too much for Inoue. Inoue doesn't move his head well coming in. Wangek will stand his ground and force the jap to use plan b.

Trust me, I love Wang, that man has made me more money beating Choco (in just two fights) than any other single fighter in history.

However, Wang is clearly bigger/stronger/powerful than Choco, he was able to walk through his shots to get on the inside where he had all his success. Just watch Inoue's piston left hand, it never stops busting faces and ribs up, plus he is much faster on his feet when he chooses to move and naturally as big as Wang. Inoue can fight defensive if he needs to, i've watched him "run"/coast around the ring with a broken hand.

Great matchup, just I see Inoue having far too much.

[Batman]

Inoue will annihilate Srisaket, he's far to open/easy to hit, he'll have no chance walking past Inoue's monster left hand jab/hook and if he does he'll be getting chinned with right hands he never saw coming.

Nobody in this division is taking flush shots off Inoue.

I think you underestimate Wang. He is a pressure fighter that will be too much for Inoue. Inoue doesn't move his head well coming in. Wangek will stand his ground and force the jap to use plan b.

Trust me, I love Wang

LOLZ

Choco looked a completely different fighter to what we are used to seeing, the first fight was close and controversial, there is certainly no question about that one.

[Mr140]

Great fight and knock out the first fight was fun watch i still can not believe this guy was pound for pound ranked 1 over likes of Ward and Crawford. He just got his career destroyed by a man who for past 10 fights before fighting him was fighting guys with shit records and a lot of them debuting in boxing. Anyway good luck to the guy hope he can find something else to do or moved back down because he look just like another guy in this weight class.

[Fenster]

Great fight and knock out the first fight was fun watch i still can not believe this guy was pound for pound ranked 1 over likes of Ward and Crawford. He just got his career destroyed by a man who for past 10 fights before fighting him was fighting guys with shit records and a lot of them debuting in boxing. Anyway good luck to the guy hope he can find something else to do or moved back down because he look just like another guy in this weight class.

I can answer why you think it's ridiculous this man was rated P4P above Ward? First some stats for perspective (seeing as you love boxrec).

44-0 (38 KOs)

FOUR-weight "world" champion.

LINEAL flyweight champion (one of the most decorated/strongest linage divisions in the entire history of boxing).

SIXTEEN consecutive world title fight wins (ALL won/defended on foreign soil/THREE different countries).

NINE victories over former/current "world" champions.

So ignoring his visually brilliant style/skills, accomplishments and treasure trove of silverware - you can't understand why a man that's fought 100% of his title fights outside his own native country could possibly rank above a man that's had the privilege of never leaving home (USA)?

Hmm... I wonder why you're struggling with this concept?

[Alpha]

Don't bother @Fenster those that actually follow boxing (not just certain divisions) know how good Gonzalez was. Age, wars and weight have taken their toll.

[Mr140]

Don't bother @Fenster those that actually follow boxing (not just certain divisions) know how good Gonzalez was. Age, wars and weight have taken their toll.

Oh i watch a lot of boxing i been watching this sport for sometime but never watched Gonzalez and thought he best in the sport. I do not like Ward at all but he is the best in the sport and craft is on par with Hopkins.

[Mr140]

Great fight and knock out the first fight was fun watch i still can not believe this guy was pound for pound ranked 1 over likes of Ward and Crawford. He just got his career destroyed by a man who for past 10 fights before fighting him was fighting guys with shit records and a lot of them debuting in boxing. Anyway good luck to the guy hope he can find something else to do or moved back down because he look just like another guy in this weight class.

I can answer why you think it's ridiculous this man was rated P4P above Ward? First some stats for perspective (seeing as you love boxrec).

44-0 (38 KOs)

FOUR-weight "world" champion.

LINEAL flyweight champion (one of the most decorated/strongest linage divisions in the entire history of boxing).

SIXTEEN consecutive world title fight wins (ALL won/defended on foreign soil/THREE different countries).

NINE victories over former/current "world" champions.

So ignoring his visually brilliant style/skills, accomplishments and treasure trove of silverware - you can't understand why a man that's fought 100% of his title fights outside his own native country could possibly rank above a man that's had the privilege of never leaving home (USA)?

Hmm... I wonder why you're struggling with this concept?

You honestly think that man is the best boxer there is then i have nothing to say to you. Ward is diva but he and Crawford are far more talented then that guy in deeper divisions so no he should of never been ranked that high.

[Fenster]

Great fight and knock out the first fight was fun watch i still can not believe this guy was pound for pound ranked 1 over likes of Ward and Crawford. He just got his career destroyed by a man who for past 10 fights before fighting him was fighting guys with shit records and a lot of them debuting in boxing. Anyway good luck to the guy hope he can find something else to do or moved back down because he look just like another guy in this weight class.

I can answer why you think it's ridiculous this man was rated P4P above Ward? First some stats for perspective (seeing as you love boxrec).

44-0 (38 KOs)

FOUR-weight "world" champion.

LINEAL flyweight champion (one of the most decorated/strongest linage divisions in the entire history of boxing).

SIXTEEN consecutive world title fight wins (ALL won/defended on foreign soil/THREE different countries).

NINE victories over former/current "world" champions.

So ignoring his visually brilliant style/skills, accomplishments and treasure trove of silverware - you can't understand why a man that's fought 100% of his title fights outside his own native country could possibly rank above a man that's had the privilege of never leaving home (USA)?

Hmm... I wonder why you're struggling with this concept?

You honestly think that man is the best boxer there is then i have nothing to say to you. Ward is diva but he and Crawford are far more talented then that guy in deeper divisions so no he should of never been ranked that high.

You stated it was baffling that an unbeaten, multi-weight world champion that had ventured all over the globe winning titles was so revered.

I considered maybe it's because you haven't got a clue who he is? I was right, as you admitted.

i watch a lot of boxing i been watching this sport for sometime but never watched Gonzalez

Many fans delve deeper into the sport than the popular American fighters. It's a global sport. Fame/money doesn't surpass ability/accomplishment when assessing their quality, there's no extra points for popularity. You don't understand why he's rated so high because you only watch a tiny pool of fighters.

[armin]

Inoue will annihilate Srisaket, he's far to open/easy to hit, he'll have no chance walking past Inoue's monster left hand jab/hook and if he does he'll be getting chinned with right hands he never saw coming.

Nobody in this division is taking flush shots off Inoue.

I think you underestimate Wang. He is a pressure fighter that will be too much for Inoue. Inoue doesn't move his head well coming in. Wangek will stand his ground and force the jap to use plan b.

Agreed think people underestimating wang

[Fenster]

I'm not underestimating Wang, you could argue i'm overestimating Inoue I suppose. To say i'm underestimating Wang sounds like i'm downplaying/knocking him when i'm making a stylistic case for a superb box-puncher (with a plan-b) to dominate a ruthless sparko-banging pressure fighter.

Wang-Estrada is next (if they play by the WBC rules) where I fancy Wang to bulldoze straight through him. Either way, it will be a great fight. Combine these guys anyway you like, it is guaranteed to be terrific.

[powerpuncher]

Chocolatito just looked awful right from the start. Wang did what he was supposed to but it's tough to say that that performance was him being that much better rather than chocolatito being that much worse. Who knows though? We will have to wait for his next fight

[powerpuncher]

What they should do now is Wang fights his mandatory in Estrada and Inoue fights Cuadras. Then the winners fight each other. Every combination of those possible fights are good.

[palmerq]

Good work for the thai fellow(shame the crowd had to boo him before the fight started for whatever reason).. He bashed him good there, I did think a year or two ago gonzalez wasn't looking so great and wouldnt make it to 49-0 and it seems he hasnt :S.. Weird thing though, I am pretty sure gonzalez really should have won their first fight and if the judges got it right there would have been no rematch and gonzalez would still be p4p number one(or at least very close).....

Had to watch it delayed two hours due to shaw cables brilliant tactic of only having the delayed hbo S:.. Cuadras v estrada was great fun and i think it could have gone either way but I think the right fellow won... Inoue could have done better I think but still good for him, I think cuadras and his large frame and long arms would cause him a lot of trouble and I wouldnt make either one a favourite to win... I suspect inoue would have fun with the thai guy though and that would be brilliant to watch ! it really might be the end of gonzalez, that was a pretty tame performance from him especially after he could have won their first fight.

[Kirkland Laing]

Wangek will stand his ground

Easier said than done against that fucker. I think he'll have the balls to try it but I don't think he'll be very successful.