At least 59 dead, 100 injured in Las Vegas shooting

[Batman]

I don't understand the concept of it, someone breaks into my home they will meet Mr Hammer who sleeps next to my bed, every now and again I use Mr Hammer to hammer nails into stuff.
If I had a gun it'd be for the soul intention of killing someone, that I can't grasp the concept of.

Having said that if someone was to break into my home the chances of them having a gun are very very very slim, Mr Hammer would most likely be sufficient.

1. A hammer might work for 1 intruder......what if there are 2, what if you're out numbered, what if you're out muscled? Guns tend to level the playing field in those areas.
2. You mean "sole" as in only. It would depend on what you wanted to use the gun for. If you hunt, then obviously all guns aren't for killing people (though they could be used for that purpose if the need arose). If you wanted something to protect your house then either a tactical shotgun or a pistol/revolver would be used and yeah those are to do away with people who have bad intentions.
3. The likelihood of you being at home when there is a break in attempt is higher for the simple fact that you do not own a gun.
4. People do not have gun ownership FORCED upon them, in America you may decide whether or not you would like a gun and should you be a law abiding citizen the government allows for it. Why is MY right so upsetting to people in England....I could aim any of my firearms in the direction of England....they don't have the range to do you any harm

1. At the same time if there was more than one then I would be contending with more than one gun being aimed and fired at me, in the UK I'd probably take a bit of a kicking (mind you that isn't taking into account knife crime around here)
2. Yeah blame my phones auto correct on that bit.
3. In the UK the chances of being at home in the UK when there is a break in attempt is extremely low I would imagine.
4. I don't find it upsetting, I just said I don't understand it, given the fact that I've never even held a gun in my life I think that kind of makes sense.

[Freedom]

Las Vegas update:

• 58 people killed
• 515 injured

[greynotsoold]

One guy did all that? Shooting down from the 32nd floor?

[Master]

One guy did all that? Shooting down from the 32nd floor?

Yes.

[Batman]

americas-deadliest-shootings

[Batman]

@El Kabong

You seem to be the resident gun expert, whats the crack with this business about silencers?
What difference would it make if they were legalized?

I see that Hill Dogs statement has annoyed some people.

I always thought that the ''put put' noise that you get from silencers in the films is pure fiction and that real silencers don't make much of a difference to the volume at all so what are the arguments for and against.

[El Kabong]

@El Kabong

You seem to be the resident gun expert, whats the crack with this business about silencers?
What difference would it make if they were legalized?

I see that Hill Dogs statement has annoyed some people.

I always thought that the ''put put' noise that you get from silencers in the films is pure fiction and that real silencers don't make much of a difference to the volume at all so what are the arguments for and against.

1. It's a suppressor not a silencer as it suppresses the sound coming out of a gun.

2. They are for hearing safety not much else. If you hunt big game or if you just shoot a lot then you need either a suppressor or ear protection. I have ear protection. The thing about ear protection is not only does it protect your ears, you cannot hear anything else you might want to hear while hunting/shooting.....like for example, somebody warning you they are approaching. I'll use a suppressor if it's available if for nothing other than convenience and safety.

3. If you want to actually learn about firearms do not waste time listening to Democrats because they know fuck all about them.

4. Suppressors depend on the kind of bullet used as well. I've shot suppressed target pistol .22's (very small caliber rounds and very small gun...think the Duck Hunt gun from NES) with subsonic (slower than the speed of sound) ammunition and those are pretty whisper quiet. I have shot a suppressed MP5 fully automatic and that's a little louder because it was using (.45 acp [Automatic Colt Pistol] subsonic rounds). Now the SAW which apparently the Vegas gunman was using......that would MELT a suppressor pretty damned quick...also it's not really tactically sound to limit the best thing about your weapon. The SAW can spit out PLENTY of bullets very rapidly, having a suppressor to worry about would just slow the gunman down which in turn would give authorities looking for a shooter more time to look and the gunman less time to fire so to answer Hillary's 'Er muh Gerd what if he had uh silencer?' question "Actually it may have saved lives had the shooter had to deal with a suppressor because although it would be harder to hear it would cause overheating a lot quicker than NOT having a suppressor"

The movies (Hollywood run by faaaaar lefties) often get guns very VERY wrong and they'll lead people to believe that you wouldn't be able to hear anything at all from a suppressor the "put put" sound you mentioned, also there's that pesky reloading you come across every so often which isn't cool enough to show in movies. Some movies, like Saving Private Ryan or Black Hawk Down do a good job being real, but there are a lot where it's spray & pray (holding the trigger down moving the gun back and forth and hoping you hit somebody) and no reloading

[brocktonblockbust]

]I'm against taking guns away from law-abiding citizens but there has to be some kind of a rigorous stepped-up extreme vetting psychological and psychiatric evaluation which should be conducted over about a 12-month period once every 90 days to make sure that someone is not going to snap. This guy seemed like a law-abiding citizen was 64 years old with a half a million dollar house for crying out loud who the hell would think you would do something like this?

[greynotsoold]

One guy did all that? Shooting down from the 32nd floor?

Yes.

It is very difficult to shoot downhill unless you are quite good at shooting. Plus, automatic weapons tend to ride up as they fire.

[Master]

One guy did all that? Shooting down from the 32nd floor?

Yes.

It is very difficult to shoot downhill unless you are quite good at shooting. Plus, automatic weapons tend to ride up as they fire.

Maybe he is a great shot.

[Beanz]

One guy did all that? Shooting down from the 32nd floor?

Yes.

It is very difficult to shoot downhill unless you are quite good at shooting. Plus, automatic weapons tend to ride up as they fire.

Maybe he is a great shot.

Was

[El Kabong]

1. At the same time if there was more than one then I would be contending with more than one gun being aimed and fired at me, in the UK I'd probably take a bit of a kicking (mind you that isn't taking into account knife crime around here)
2. Yeah blame my phones auto correct on that bit.
3. In the UK the chances of being at home in the UK when there is a break in attempt is extremely low I would imagine.
4. I don't find it upsetting, I just said I don't understand it, given the fact that I've never even held a gun in my life I think that kind of makes sense.

1. People may not enjoy being hit with a hammer....but it's better than being shot.
2. Well there you go
3. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...0-minutes.html vs http://www.jsu.edu/police/docs/Schoolsafety.pdf
4. Well the long and short of it is: Here in America you're allowed to protect yourself and your property SPECIFICALLY with firearms as stated in the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights is NOT a list of things Government can/should do, it's a list of things Government cannot/should not do. These Rights are not granted by the Government, they are granted by our Creator. That being the case they are "inalienable" meaning "unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor."....I don't need the Government's permission to protect my property from unlawful intruders, I don't have to ask permission. Likewise, if somebody is robbing me in the city or attempting to steal my car or what have you, yes I can defend my property. It's REALLY simple.

[X]

Of course, it's now been revealed that the shooter was an accountant. What a fucking surprise. The so-called 'profession of peace'. The image of the grey haired, bespectacled accountant is just complete urban media brainwashing.

All they are employed to do is count stuff, for fucks sake. I could count to infinity before I was ten years old, so why do we need them.

Round the fuckers up and deport them, I say.

[Master]

Of course, it's now been revealed that the shooter was an accountant. What a fucking surprise. The so-called 'profession of peace'. The image of the grey haired, bespectacled accountant is just complete urban media brainwashing.

All they are employed to do is count stuff, for fucks sake. I could count to infinity before I was ten years old, so why do we need them.

Round the fuckers up and deport them, I say.

You obviously have not seen the film Accountant starring Ben Affleck.

[Xwetie]

CIA did this, goverment did this, same with the 9/11


What happens in Vegas doesn't stays in vegas