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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    And for having no credibility, belittling like Eddie rather than staying on point. Notice nobody disagreed with anything I wrote about the video. Because it was all true. Notice nobody answered all those questions I put forth, because you don’t like the answers. If avoiding gets credibility around here I’m not interested in credibility. If lying is somehow what makes people credible again, not interested
    It's not belittling it is absolutely relevant. You are expecting everyone to suspend disbelief. In order to give your assertions any credibility whatsoever one has to abandon common sense and all previous evidence to the contrary.

    Firstly...and it is important. For you and Wilder and Finkel's argument to have any credence, you have to believe that Joshua saying "Let's Roll" in reply to Wilder's offer on Instagram, and Eddies email reply, reiterated on multiple videos, "We are very interested in that offer" arenow somehow magically transformed to not accepting the offer.

    Then you have to believe that Hearn arranging and agreeing to meet all parties in New York...TWICE...(in between putting on a Show with all the pre and post fight commitments to fullfill) to negotiate a contract, somehow magically constitutes Eddie proving he never had any intention of agreeing.

    You have to believe that Eddie is somehow psychic and knows that the fight will be in Vegas. Or That Eddie is psychic and knows that the fight will be in New York. I don't know which one, not being Psychic. It's hardly irrelevant, I mean do they want it in a field?

    You have to believe that Eddie saying "We are very Interested" does not mean we agree to the money lets negotiate the details.

    You have to believe the ridiculous inversion that Finkel and Wilder meeting Matchroom would somehow be a waste of THEIR time?

    I mean how desperate are you to pretend that Eddie doesn't want the fight?

    Of course all the Brits and others that have disagreed with you don't believe everything Eddie says, that is not the point. He has plenty of detractors but even many of them would find it incredibly hard to believe _

    1. That Finkel and Wilder were serious about the fight happening

    2. That an instagram blurt somehow constitutes a solid offer

    3. That Matchroom need Finkel to promote the fight in America

    4. That Haymon was behind all this but refused to meet Eddie


    Nobody is buying it.


    If Wilder cannot even sell an offer how is he going to sell the fight. Look at the video of him after the offer in public. Nobody knows who he is.


    Matchroom don't need America input to sell the fight and Wilder and Shelly can't stand it. These are the guys who already agreed to come to the UK in March, now realising they don't really want it.
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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    And for having no credibility, belittling like Eddie rather than staying on point. Notice nobody disagreed with anything I wrote about the video. Because it was all true. Notice nobody answered all those questions I put forth, because you don’t like the answers. If avoiding gets credibility around here I’m not interested in credibility. If lying is somehow what makes people credible again, not interested
    It's not belittling it is absolutely relevant. You are expecting everyone to suspend disbelief. In order to give your assertions any credibility whatsoever one has to abandon common sense and all previous evidence to the contrary.

    Firstly...and it is important. For you and Wilder and Finkel's argument to have any credence, you have to believe that Joshua saying "Let's Roll" in reply to Wilder's offer on Instagram, and Eddies email reply, reiterated on multiple videos, "We are very interested in that offer" arenow somehow magically transformed to not accepting the offer.

    (Eddie said he didn't accept the offer himself, today, on the last video I supplied. So stop with the BS if YOU want credibility. It is not up for debate they didn't accept. It's fact)

    Then you have to believe that Hearn arranging and agreeing to meet all parties in New York...TWICE...(in between putting on a Show with all the pre and post fight commitments to fullfill) to negotiate a contract, somehow magically constitutes Eddie proving he never had any intention of agreeing.

    (No, Eddie talking about his offer, his split every day from the offer until today demonstrates he never intended to accept)

    You have to believe that Eddie is somehow psychic and knows that the fight will be in Vegas. Or That Eddie is psychic and knows that the fight will be in New York. I don't know which one, not being Psychic. It's hardly irrelevant, I mean do they want it in a field?

    (His problem is not with New York or Vegas, he said he's fine with that, he doesn't want Dubai or such. He doesn't want to be shipped even though he said that's exactly what he would do. We all know and have always known it would be New York or Vegas)

    You have to believe that Eddie saying "We are very Interested" does not mean we agree to the money lets negotiate the details.

    (He said he didn't agree! Stop with this stupid point that isn't up for debate. It's fact even though You say otherwise he did not agree by his own admission. This is a retarded circle not baseD on fact. Let's be honest)

    You have to believe the ridiculous inversion that Finkel and Wilder meeting Matchroom would somehow be a waste of THEIR time?

    (If course it would be a waste of time, he has planned this counter offer the whole time, he kept talking about it. Are you ignoring reports or pretending not to understand them?)

    I mean how desperate are you to pretend that Eddie doesn't want the fight?

    (That's where you spending so much time on nonsense rather than facts gets you wrong. I think Eddie does want the fight, when it is when he wants it on his terms. But those terms aren't here yet. The terms that are here Eddie doesn't want. Hence turning it down, and the thing that matters NO FIGHT AGREED EVEN WITH A GREAT OFFER. We could have gotten to that if you stopped denying things EDDIE ADMITTED),

    Of course all the Brits and others that have disagreed with you don't believe everything Eddie says, that is not the point. He has plenty of detractors but even many of them would find it incredibly hard to believe _

    1. That Finkel and Wilder were serious about the fight happening

    (Here's a UK fighter admitting "Haymon and Finkel are SERIOUS people" when discussing this

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C_OYQVLsTgc

    Since you like this nonsense distraction. How about you back it up, name one time Finkel and Haymon weren't serious. Just one, should be easy or it's just another baseless distraction.)

    2. That an instagram blurt somehow constitutes a solid offer

    (Forget instagram, despite Eddie's lies that he's been emailing Wilder he slipped up And admitted he is even emailing with Finkel todaY, I've already provided that video. Are you really this insistent on BS?)

    3. That Matchroom need Finkel to promote the fight in America

    (What does that have to do
    With
    anything? If Matchroom makes a better offer Then I will be in the opposite side saying Wilder should agree. So far Eddie have a real offer,
    Wilder have
    A great offer)

    4. That Haymon was behind all this but refused to meet Eddie

    (Are you suggesting Haymon isn't involved? That's the dumbest misdirection yet. You suggest Wilder, Finkel and Dibella ist use his name? This teaching is pathetic)

    Nobody is buying it.


    If Wilder cannot even sell an offer how is he going to sell the fight. Look at the video of him after the offer in public. Nobody knows who he is.

    (Best ratings for years, keep selling the distraction ignoring the numbers)

    Matchroom don't need America input to sell the fight and Wilder and Shelly can't stand it. These are the guys who already agreed to come to the UK in March, now realising they don't really want it.
    (Then they should make an offer that isn't shite)

    Notice I replied to everything. Now simply reply to one thing. You put a lot in there that is factually incorrect. Will you at the very least admit the known FACT they did not agree to the money? (I can easily supply video of Eddie saying they did not accept it you like, video from today) Or is all this pointless trolling?

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    My point is quite simple. Eddie is feeding a long line of BS. It’s all on video, proof.

    And it doesn’t help the fight to be made. That’s my issue. I want the fight.

    From Eddie’s side this is great, everyone is talking about it. The offer in 2 weeks will be worse, maybe Wilder says “sure it’s worse but I don’t care I want the fight” or maybe he says “It’s a worse offer, we’ll try again after the Brezeale fight”.

    Either way Eddie gets what he wants. But most likely we don’t get the fight as soon. That is my issue.

    I’m willing to place bets that Eddie’s offer isn’t as good as Wilders by the way if anyone wants to contradict that please put your money where your mouth is. Why should we wait for a worse offer?

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