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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    And as for the PPV? By his estimation doing 500,000 in America is optimistic. He orginally thought 300,000 but as Team Wilder are banking on 1 million he'll go with that.

    There's no EVIDENCE that a great matchup will equal big PPV numbers - Ward-Kovalev, Golovkin-Jacobs did less than 200,000. In recent years only TWO proven stars, who spent years being built for PPV have broke a million - Floyd, and Canelo with the huge Latino market.

    This, Ron, falls in line exactly with what YOU have said several times, and what has been said earlier in this thread several times about the over-optimistic 100 million pot gamble. Joshua is NOT a star in the States (as you said) and Wilder has NEVER done a PPV (no bigger a star than Wlad which didn't generate 100 million).

    This is basic common sense.
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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    And as for the PPV? By his estimation doing 500,000 in America is optimistic. He orginally thought 300,000 but as Team Wilder are banking on 1 million he'll go with that.

    There's no EVIDENCE that a great matchup will equal big PPV numbers - Ward-Kovalev, Golovkin-Jacobs did less than 200,000. In recent years only TWO proven stars, who spent years being built for PPV have broke a million - Floyd, and Canelo with the huge Latino market.

    This, Ron, falls in line exactly with what YOU have said several times, and what has been said earlier in this thread several times about the over-optimistic 100 million pot gamble. Joshua is NOT a star in the States (as you said) and Wilder has NEVER done a PPV (no bigger a star than Wlad which didn't generate 100 million).

    This is basic common sense.
    And Eddie would sit with no risk what so ever by simply agreeing to THE MONEY. THE MONEY.

    Eddie admits it makes more in the US. So agreeing to that money in the U.K. means they keep it all. Anyone agrees to all the money and home advantage. Of course Wilder wants home advantage too. That’s not deniable. The difference is he is offering money for it.

    All this talk blindly skips what everyone should see. Eddie just wants even more out of it. Good business. The interest is building. Good business. But fans shouldn’t make up stuff to get around this. Fans shouldn’t back nonsense like verbal agreements are binding in New York. It’s a silly distraction. First it’s not true. Verbal agreements plus consideration are binding. Not just New York, distraction to make it seem like a risk. Verbal agreements plus consideration are binding everywhere in the USA. Meaning agreeing to the money is no risk. If Eddie said “everything we’re doing right now is building the fight” I’d be “okay, he’s being honest about what they’re doing” I just don’t want fans arguing over nonsense and lies like verbal agreements are binding. Argue over the truth.

    And I want the fight

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    Default Re: The Wilder Excuses Begin

    What a verbal agreement plus consideration means is I can say “I’m going to pay you 50$ for work” you say okay. It means nothing. Except we’ve agreed on the money.

    But if we then work out the details of the work and you take the money but don’t do the work we’ve agreed I can take you to court and I will win

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