Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?

[brocktonblockbust]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

[Master]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

Never judge a book by it's cover

[brocktonblockbust]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

Never judge a book by it's cover

bwaaaaHAHAHA yes good one 😀

[Beanz]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

uh..well that is kind of the point. Racism is a very superficial prejudice mainly based on the fact that someone does not look like you based on some vague idea that that means they were born somewhere, will act someway, will think someway etc

I am not saying that groups of people can not share differences but to attribute race based generalities etc is actually denying that.

[Gandalf]

If race does not exist then why do my medical reports list me as caucasian? When police hunt a murder suspect I am sure they don't just say 'All murder suspects are mixed race'. They go on height, hair color, and RACE amongst other things. Race exists and it is silly to deny it. I don't think the Japanese mostly think of themselves as black or white though obvious exceptions exist of course as in the likes of Naomi Osaka who is tricking people really as it is her Mum's name and she can barely even speak Japanese.

[brocktonblockbust]

Race exists and there are differences between the races physically mentally intellectually Etc

And I don't know why we're not allowed to like whatever those attributes are and why we have to be labeled a word called racism

[TitoFan]

Such a HANGUP over the word "racism", for crying out loud.

Brock, saying you don't like black people's kinky hair is not racist.

Saying you don't like black people period because they're inferior to you IS racist.

WTH is so hard to understand about that?

Being racist is not the end of the world. It just denotes ignorance and unwarranted hate toward a group of people.



BTW, I also believe races exist. I don't understand the opposite argument. Races exist, ethnic backgrounds exist. But as humans mix more and more, differences will become blurred over time. Eventually that will probably be the only way to get rid of racism altogether...... when we're all so mixed up it'll just be one big pot of brownish, wavy-haired, lookalikes.

[TitoFan]

BTW, continuing to claim differences in intelligence due to races is racist, IMO. Just read a very good article about Eastern Asian culture and assimilation in the States, and it correctly states that the fact you have so many over-achieving students and professionals from Eastern Asia in the States, percentage-wise, is mainly due to parental influence and a push toward education in specific fields. It's not because their DNA somehow makes them smarter than other races. That is preposterous and ridiculous.

[Gandalf]

That is debatable Tito. I think the differences are real but the reasons aren't completely known. However, you are right there is a lot of focus on education. Many asian students have a firmer theoretical understanding of English grammar than the Brits do for example. They are better at maths and sciences. It's the same in all East Asian countries. Very smart people. IQ difference between races is factual and I don't think that is racist. It should be a kick up the bum to whites and blacks to sort themselves out and aspire hire. If me and Beanz can achieve distinctions in Masters or Undergraduate programmes despite warped childhoods then so can others. I don't feel inferior. It just makes me want to study harder. It can be a motivating force rather than a means for division. I've nothing against anybody of any color and especially if they are doing their best. It's all you can do. Plenty of smart people of every race out there, but the stats are what they are. Very few of us in any race are going to be Einsteinian anyway.

[Beanz]

If race does not exist then why do my medical reports list me as caucasian? When police hunt a murder suspect I am sure they don't just say 'All murder suspects are mixed race'. They go on height, hair color, and RACE amongst other things. Race exists and it is silly to deny it. I don't think the Japanese mostly think of themselves as black or white though obvious exceptions exist of course as in the likes of Naomi Osaka who is tricking people really as it is her Mum's name and she can barely even speak Japanese.

Because it's a convenient way of supporting white privilege across the world. I jest but it really is convenience, it's a fuzzy way of dealing with things and that is how the world works. Seriously it's sounds mental, but the reality is the genetic distances found within a 'Race' are larger than the mean genetic distances between races.






It is quite clearly explained here


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/m...cience-africa/

[El Kabong]

Guys, race itself is a social construct....it's why literally ANYONE can give literally ANYONE ELSE a blood transfusion, an organ and/or bone marrow transplant....THEY want you to think race is a thing, but it's soooo not, neither is blood type or whatever matching human leukocyte antigen's is for pussies you just pay no mind to the social constructs and you fucking do it like a champ.


@TitoFan some cultures value education, some don't. Some cultures believe that their success honors their family and their shame shames the family and other cultures don't. Not all cultures are equal.

[brocktonblockbust]

#NotAllCultures......😒

[Beanz]

Guys, race itself is a social construct....it's why literally ANYONE can give literally ANYONE ELSE a blood transfusion, an organ and/or bone marrow transplant....THEY want you to think race is a thing, but it's soooo not, neither is blood type or whatever matching human leukocyte antigen's is for pussies you just pay no mind to the social constructs and you fucking do it like a champ.


@TitoFan some cultures value education, some don't. Some cultures believe that their success honors their family and their shame shames the family and other cultures don't. Not all cultures are equal.

This is just your way of justifying an invented narrative. It has nothing to do with Science, which is why you rather than address what i say, you constantly resort to inserting arguments i never made. If you think life is all about winning you are no better than an ape. What you feel is right and your feelings about 'race' mean fuck all. Facts Lyle.


'There is no necessary concordance between biological characteristics and culturally defined groups. On every continent, there are diverse populations that differ in language, economy, and culture. There is no national, religious, linguistic or cultural group or economic class that constitutes a race.'


http://physanth.org/about/position-s...-aspects-race/

[Beanz]

Guys, race itself is a social construct....it's why literally ANYONE can give literally ANYONE ELSE a blood transfusion, an organ and/or bone marrow transplant....THEY want you to think race is a thing, but it's soooo not, neither is blood type or whatever matching human leukocyte antigen's is for pussies you just pay no mind to the social constructs and you fucking do it like a champ.


@TitoFan some cultures value education, some don't. Some cultures believe that their success honors their family and their shame shames the family and other cultures don't. Not all cultures are equal.

Race and organ compatibility

In almost every case, race does not affect compatibility. Organs such as heart, liver, and lungs can be donated by a person of one race and transplanted into a person of another race.

However, genetic matches between kidney and pancreas donors and recipients are important. A donated kidney within the same
race will have a higher degree of compatibility. Ethnic donors can help other people from culturally diverse origins waiting for transplants.

Caucasian recipients and ethnic donors

Some people believe that Caucasians receive preference in donation over individuals from other ethnic backgrounds. In fact, organ and tissue allocation as a policy is based on medical compatibility and severity of illness. Moreover, nine out of ten African-Americans who undergo an organ transplant receive those organs from Caucasian donors.


http://www.donoralliance.org

[El Kabong]

This is just your way of justifying an invented narrative. It has nothing to do with Science, which is why you rather than address what i say, you constantly resort to inserting arguments i never made. If you think life is all about winning you are no better than an ape. What you feel is right and your feelings about 'race' mean fuck all. Facts Lyle.


'There is no necessary concordance between biological characteristics and culturally defined groups. On every continent, there are diverse populations that differ in language, economy, and culture. There is no national, religious, linguistic or cultural group or economic class that constitutes a race.'


http://physanth.org/about/position-s...-aspects-race/

Ok then if you say so.

You know, we're all very lucky to have a poster like you....I mean before you came around nobody was able to read between the lines like you, you know, tell other posters what they REALLY meant.


You're a credit to your ummm phylum

Race and organ compatibility

In almost every case, race does not affect compatibility. Organs such as heart, liver, and lungs can be donated by a person of one race and transplanted into a person of another race.

However, genetic matches between kidney and pancreas donors and recipients are important. A donated kidney within the same
RACE will have a higher degree of compatibility. Ethnic donors can help other people from culturally diverse origins waiting for transplants.

Caucasian recipients and ethnic donors

Some people believe that Caucasians receive preference in donation over individuals from other ethnic backgrounds. In fact, organ and tissue allocation as a policy is based on medical compatibility and severity of illness. Moreover, nine out of ten African-Americans who undergo an organ transplant receive those organs from Caucasian donors.


http://www.donoralliance.org

A donated kidney within the same what now?



I'm happy for when organs can be used to save lives, I'm happy when blood and bone marrow can be used to save lives, but it's not mean or nasty or negative to note that people are different and those different people (100% of humanity I'm talking here) should be giving of their blood (if they want), giving of their organs (if they so choose), and giving of their bone marrow (should they so choose) because people genetically similar to them might need bone marrow, they might need blood transfusions, they might need organs....it's important.


I remember that being driven home to me when I learned of former baseball great Rod Carew whose daughter struggled with acute myeloid leukemia but her very rare ethnic mix made it extremely difficult to find a good match. Her father was black with West Indian and Panamanian roots and her mother was of Russian-Jewish ancestry. Carew pleaded for those of similar ethnic background to come forward. When no matching bone marrow donor was found, an umbilical cord blood transplant was performed in March 1996. Michelle died on April 17, 1996 at the age of 18....it's a tragic story and as someone who has had friends with leukemia back when we were young young, when it was an absolute death sentence for a child yeah it's weighed on my mind a bit over the years.



So yeah I have some gallows humor, yeah I am not politically correct, but in this case....yes there's some genetic things that need to be specific in order for everything to end up ok when doing a transfusion or donation....that's all I'm saying just in a crass manner....didn't mean for you to get irked by it. My apologies



I'm an organ donor...I need to donate blood more often, and I do need to bite the bullet and do the marrow donation. I give good blood though...O Neg baby, universal donor