Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
I don't know where your hostility is coming from, but the opening post was about a transgender man, so Spicoli was bang on with his description of people wanting to manufacture an argument where there is not one.

See Beanzie.... this is where the minute speck of credibility you may have on here takes a major hit. I'll repost the opening post for you.


Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
Patricio Manuel, a super featherweight fighting out of Los Angeles won a unanimous decision in December at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in what was billed as the first pro bout in the U.S. involving a transgender man.

Here's another poster, making the perfectly good argument that if a transgender who turned into a man wants to fight men... fine. Just not the other way around. You see..... this is what is known as a discussion. You take the opening question, which is "Should transgendered people be allowed to box?", and you proceed to discuss it. No one here except you is keeping score on whether we veered off the straight and narrow path of the initial question. As adults, we expand upon our answers.

Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
so that’s someone born a woman who turned and fought as a man? I guess if that’s what they want to do, fine, just match them light. If it’s the other way around, hell no, would be my stance. As with everything involving the issue though, it’s more of a talking point and source of faux outrage than it is anything which will ever have much to do with anything. A tomato can who has been knocked out 18 times in the last three years shouldn’t be allowed to fight a standout prospect, but that’s just boxing.

Now here's my own two cents. Posting the opinions of actual women boxers.



Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
"Women of boxing discuss competing with transgender females"


http://proboxinginsider.com/women-of...ender-females/



Here's the opinion of some of those who actually have to step into the ring with transgender females. Some bravely go with the flow and don't seem to mind... but others emphatically say "no".

I agree with the latter.

Now here's me adding to the previous post where I basically say the same thing p4pking said. Follow me so far?


Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
In short, a woman changes into a man and wants to fight men? It's her choice.

A man changes into a woman and wants to fight women? He's being forced onto opponents who want no part of it.

'Nough said.


From this, I get called a "sexist" by Swanson, and you thanking him for it.

What's your basis? Zilch. Nada. Just this inexplicable itch you have to leap on anything that's said about transgenders that might ruffle your feathers.


THEN.... you comically try to make about me saying transgenders are going to be forced on women boxers.

Well my angry bitter friend..... if a transgender is given a license to fight as a woman against other women.... it stands to reason he's gonna have to fight SOMEBODY. Unless of course that premise doesn't meet your standards.

What's more, like your "reasoned, nuanced" pal Swanson says..... project 10 years down the road.

Does the idea there might be a woman champion that all of a sudden is faced with the specter of squaring off against a transgender or she gets stripped of her title...... is that too far-fetched for you? Did I stray off the original post? Is my argument not meeting your standards?



THEN, you have the unmitigated gall to mention International Woman's Week, and try to make it about that, when all I've done here is stick up for those women who say they would not want to fight a transgender.

I'm fucking protecting them, but to pea-brain Swanson and yourself and Robin, I'm a sexist.


That sound you're now hearing is the sound of that brittle leg you were standing on being crushed by the weight of the moronic argument you've spun for yourself.



You know..... I'm tired of showing you up for the two-faced, sniveling, angry little bitter twat you are.

Back off and go back to the topics you actually know something about.