Should transgenered people be allowed to box?

[TitoFan]

let's let the Ron's and the Beanzs and the Fensters of the world continue carrying their torch.

Show me where I posted before you wrote this?

If you can't, i'm willing to accept an apology and move on (i'll ignore the paranoia and lies).

'Cause you don't have the same sensitive scabs on transgender that Beanz does? 'Cause you haven't devoted volumes of posts to ridicule the opinions of those of us who object to certain things regarding transgenderism? (This being one of them). Gimme a break and for god's sake be an adult about this. There's a history here. You gonna pretend otherwise? You and Beanz play tag wrestling on this and other subjects. By the way, you liked Swanson's post also.

What the f*ck is your major problem with me? Is it my deodorant?

BTW, did I mention how much your opinion means to me?

So no apology just more lies and paranoia and as I already noted you're the "victim." So, so predictable.

You don't care about my opinion but feel the need to invent it and monitor the posts I "like?" Seriously, get a grip. I "liked" Ron's post purely for his stance on gay adoption, that's all. My gawd, the paranoia.

No paranoia Fenster. Just a lot of experience arguing with you on other threads about the transgender issue. I don't invent your opinion either. You make it very clear. It's not your opinion I have a problem with. It's the way you go about tearing down other people's opinions. You may not notice it, but you do. He who's without sin cast the first stone and all that jazz.

No victim here, Fenster. Just clearing the air. I still don't know how my opinion that transgenders fighting women boxers could be a safety issue and I'm against it, got turned into "sexism". Put your dislike of me aside for a minute. Does that not strike you as just a little inaccurate? Again... call me a bully... opinionated... and all the names I'm sure you have on a list. But sexist? My god... enough with the homophobic accusations to be called sexist also.

News flash: Trying to protect women boxers is NOT sexist. Personal choice is fine. If a woman boxer doesn't mind facing a transgender who used to be a man... hell... go for it. But the majority don't. And if ever the situation arises that a woman champion has a transgender mandatory... chooses not to fight that opponent... and gets stripped (not that far-fetched)... then we'll be singing a different tune.

Predictability... victim playing... nobody here has a monopoly on any of this shit, Fenster.

Also, if it hasn't been made clear already, I'm not against those who want to change their gender. I personally don't agree with that... but I don't believe in preventing people from doing whatever they want to do with themselves. I just object it being done to children, and you may (or not) be interested in that one article where I posted about some women who feel victimized by others pressuring them to act on their child's transgender feelings.

The same arguments bring out the same vitriol from the same suspects, who predictably land on the same, opposite sides of the fence. Hey it's ok to have different opinions. I just wish for once we could all have a decent conversation without it going down the tubes.

[Gandalf]

I agree with Tito.

[Gandalf]

Lol, I had only read the first page, posted my line, and then carried on reading and saw my name mentioned and Tito doing his thing! I started to have a right old chuckle. I still agree with Tito.

Women fighting one another is fair enough but a transgender person is not a......uh oh, this actually heads towards hate crime territory in police states. Controversial topic though it really should not be.

[Gandalf]

Ron, you have turned really weird in this thread. Usually quite sound but a bit odd here.

[Hulk]

Lol, I had only read the first page, posted my line, and then carried on reading and saw my name mentioned and Tito doing his thing! I started to have a right old chuckle. I still agree with Tito.Women fighting one another is fair enough but a transgender person is not a......uh oh, this actually heads towards hate crime territory in police states. Controversial topic though it really should not be.

Pleasantly surprised to see you have not bought into the liberal transgender BS. I’ve got a trans student in one of my high school classes I teach n feel bad for her as she’s been misled into believing she is actually a boy. In my opinion she should just live her life as a lesbian and be happy with her body. Also can’t see her competing in American football or boxing against real boys. She’d be hurt.

[smashup]

Who gives a fuck or really wants to watch Transsexual boxing anyway.?
Sounds like some of you lot have seedy little fetishes listening to you bitching like fucking schoolgirls.

[Gandalf]

Lol, I had only read the first page, posted my line, and then carried on reading and saw my name mentioned and Tito doing his thing! I started to have a right old chuckle. I still agree with Tito.Women fighting one another is fair enough but a transgender person is not a......uh oh, this actually heads towards hate crime territory in police states. Controversial topic though it really should not be.

Pleasantly surprised to see you have not bought into the liberal transgender BS. I’ve got a trans student in one of my high school classes I teach n feel bad for her as she’s been misled into believing she is actually a boy. In my opinion she should just live her life as a lesbian and be happy with her body. Also can’t see her competing in American football or boxing against real boys. She’d be hurt.

I pay attention, but find it all fairly ridiculous how much it is being pushed, especially on kids who really do not know what they are. Let the person become an adult and decide what they want to do with their life free of indoctrination.

You tell 'em Smashup, but if you agree to cut off your willy I challenge you to a handbag contest at 162 pounds.

[smashup]

If someone chooses to change their sex then that's their business, however, in a sporting environment particularly in boxing, you have to consider why they have categories and weight divisions... for example...

Katie Taylor v Vasyl Lomachenko - both the same weight (lightweight) and both regarded as the best fighters in their category.

Is a 10 stone man always going to be stronger than a 10 stone woman? Who knows... lets put them in the ring?

Taylor or Lomachenko... Who wins and why



#MSGG

[TitoFan]

It's really a moot point, because it would never happen. Nobody in their right mind would sanction such a fight, and Loma himself would probably rather smack himself around than fighting a woman.

But for the sake of the argument, Loma would win by scary and damaging knockout.

[palmerq]

If someone chooses to change their sex then that's their business, however, in a sporting environment particularly in boxing, you have to consider why they have categories and weight divisions... for example...

Katie Taylor v Vasyl Lomachenko - both the same weight (lightweight) and both regarded as the best fighters in their category.

Is a 10 stone man always going to be stronger than a 10 stone woman? Who knows... lets put them in the ring?

Taylor or Lomachenko... Who wins and why



#MSGG

Well there was the time undefeated women's kick boxing champion took on a 21 year old fellow who was Australasian may Thai champ or something along those lines. Rijker was knocked out fairly easily.

But obviously lucija rijker is no katie taylor so kayie taylor would win easy, ud of course.

I'd also like to see master take on taylor so I'm all for Transgender people in boxing

[Batman]

I can't be bothered to read through the entire thread, fuck me we might as well bring Brock back

my opinion is that NO transgendered people shouldn't be allowed to participate in professional sports.

Male to Female - they are going to obviously have a huge advantage and potential to seriously fuck someone up in boxing
Female to Male - yeah it may be the transgendered persons choice but what if the male boxer doesn't feel comfortable punching a woman in the face, so they aren't technically a female anymore but I know that I would have a bit of a problem with it.

going back to the videos that I posted earlier in this thread, that Hannah mouncey person as already snapped some birds leg whilst playing in the Australian Football League

[TitoFan]

Hmm... things have gotten quite chippy on the forum.

I guess the only thing worse would be a Muslim, transgender woman who wanted to fight born women while wearing a MAGA hat, had previously fathered a child who was now a famous drag queen ...... and also knew the Earth is flat. Only to find out in the end it had all been Fake News anyway.

[walrus]

No the whole thing is stupid.